PTO anyone?

[loki]

There is definitely something odd about this claim. For a PTO to work the transfer case would have to be in neutral, the Delicas don't have a neutral on the transfer case (maybe on the manual delicas? certainly not on the automatics)

So I'm going to say that most delicas do not have a PTO, and possibly no delicas have one.

the ones with a PTO port on the transfer case, likely have a completely different transfer case, only makes sense.

[Green1]

So I'm going to say that most delicas do not have a PTO, and possibly no delicas have one.

the ones with a PTO port on the transfer case, likely have a completely different transfer case, only makes sense.

That was my point. It has to have a neutral position on the transfer case shifter, something I have NEVER seen, or even heard of, on a Delica.

Now if you find one that DOES have it, ok, but most don't.

[loki]

So I'm going to say that most delicas do not have a PTO, and possibly no delicas have one.

the ones with a PTO port on the transfer case, likely have a completely different transfer case, only makes sense.

That was my point. It has to have a neutral position on the transfer case shifter, something I have NEVER seen, or even heard of, on a Delica.

Now if you find one that DOES have it, ok, but most don't.

All I'm saying is that if a deli has this PTO feature it would also have a different transfer case, so saying you have never seen a deli with neutral on the transfer case could really just mean you have never seen one with the PTO option, this in no way means it wasn't/isn't available.

[sasquatch-hunter]

I wonder how hard to use the PTO to power a trailer? You will get 6WD!

[thedjjack]

I have the PTO port. My guess is the transfer case has a neutral and it is the shifter that does not have the neutral. It is very common to have different shift configurations for different shifting. At some point shifting from 2wd to 4wd there will be a N position.

For example Toyota, Dana20, Dana300, and NP205 are commonly converted to "twin Stick" shifters so you have 2 shifters with H-N-L one for the front and one for the back. You can then have 2wd H or L on either axle. Lets you put it in front wheel drive, pull the e-brake and drag around your back end. Or if you blow up something you can limp home using the other axle to drive.

I think the engineers at Misubishi just put in the simplest design shifter they could do to the Forward Control configeration.

You can also add a second transfercase to increase your gear ratios (not enough drive shaft lenght in L300 SWB though).

The little Misubishi Jeep probably uses the same transmission/transfer case setup.

He has a PTO winch on Mistubishi Jeep with a Twin stick: http://forum.ih8mud.com/vehicles-traile ... wench.html

[Modsqwad]

My transfer case has what looks like the PTO mounting boss on the side. This transfer case has no neutral marked on the shift pattern but I will try to see if I can find a dead zone in it where a PTO drive could function properly. Nothing saying that they could not bee running different shift arrangements in the same box however. Stay tuned.
Andy Wilson

[Green1]

If you don't have a neutral on the shifter then you do NOT have a PTO, you may have something that LOOKS like a PTO, but it is not.

You would not be capable of using any PTO accessories without a neutral position on the shifter. something the delica simply does not have.

[jwfchase]

I don't think it's saying the PTO is there, but the fitting to run it off the transfer case is.

[Green1]

It doesn't matter what is there, it isn't useful to you unless you have a different way of shifting, something that you won't find at your local auto parts store.

There's a reason you don't see these things coming over with PTO accessories on them, it's because they don't have a PTO, or the capability to use one.

[jwfchase]

Now the question I am sure many of us are thinking.... "Where can I find a direct drive winch for the Delica?"

A friend was working on a 2.8 Pajero the other day then he noticed the winch on it was driven by PTO!

He'd never seen one before on a Mitsubishi and was quite surprised because he never even knew that Mitsubishi supplied PTO accessories! (It was a genuine Mitsy winch!)

When I told him about the PTO on the L300's (based on the info here....thanks guys... ) he said he would look into sourcing some more info about winches/linkages etc...

I'll ask him if he has any photos of the Pajero winch...

Regards for now,

Bruce.

I know this is talking about Pajeros and not Delicas, but you're saying, now way, nohow, never, not a chance on a Delica, Green1?

The fact that no-one seems to know for sure means you're probably right, but maybe.... I'm just wondering what info you have besides the shift pattern makes you so definitevely and absolutely sure.

[Green1]

I know this is talking about Pajeros and not Delicas, but you're saying, now way, nohow, never, not a chance on a Delica, Green1?

Show me a Delica that has a neutral on the transfer case (and not just "I found a dead spot somewhere") and I'll reconsider. until then, no way, no how, never, not a chance on a delica.

I'm just wondering what info you have besides the shift pattern makes you so definitevely and absolutely sure.

The shift pattern is one of the most conclusive things here, if you don't have a neutral, you can't do PTO. it's that simple.

You can't do PTO on a delica without MAJOR mods.

[jessef]

You can't do PTO on a delica without MAJOR mods.

x2

[thedjjack]

Everyone has a different idea of major mods.

The transfer case has a PTO spot on the side. It is covered. I have not found a schematic of the insides. But there will be a neutral spot (yes, that is just a dead spot where nothing is engage, not like the put a gear in with no teeth).

To add a PTO you would need the PTO, maybe a shaft if the stock one does not have teeth to run the PTO, and to design a set of shifters to neutral the case. It can be done. The fact that the case has a PTO spot, means there is a version with the PTO.

personally, I cannot think of anything I want to run off a PTO that bad. But, I am sure it can be done.

Not much info on the Mitsubishi case, Found lower gear set for it...But, I have change shift patterns on Toyota's and New Process cases to twin sticks. It is easy to do.

Here is someone thinking about it: http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showflat. ... art=1&vc=1

[FalcoColumbarius]

I was having this conversation with a dump truck driver, we were comparing notes between his dump truck and my Delica. As the conversation moved about various topics I pointed out that Delicas seem to be designed to be modified as they have various holes strategically placed in the frame that could be used for many things but don't appear to have any relevance to a stock Delica. He (the dump truck driver) went on to tell me that this was quite common with automobile manufacturers. It is quite common that a motor company will make, say, three models of motor cars that have 4WD ~ but instead of making a transfer case for the Delica, a transfer case for the Paj and a transfer case for the Jeep, they will make only one transfer case and put it in all three, even though only one of those vehicles will be stock designed to use the PTO feature of that transfer case. I am not saying that this is the case with the Delica transfer case (although it may be) but it is a money saving issue with the auto industry.

Automobile manufacturers might have two or more trucks with the same frame: One has two axles; another has three. The one that only has two axles will have a third hole configuration for the third axle already drilled into place so when the assembly line shifts from the two axle truck to the three axle truck they don't have to spend more time and money drilling new holes or putting a different frame on the line ~ they just keep the line moving and add the third axle then put a different body on the frame. Do you get my drift?

Falco.

[Green1]

But there will be a neutral spot (yes, that is just a dead spot where nothing is engage, not like the put a gear in with no teeth).

How many times do I have to say it, THE DELICA DOES NOT HAVE A NEUTRAL ON THE TRANSFER CASE
a "dead spot where nothing engages" is not a neutral, it is a safety hazard, you're just asking for it to fall out of that spot and engage.
If you think there's a neutral on your Delica, you either don't know what neutral is, or have never looked at your transfer case selector.

There may be a port that looks like it possibly could maybe almost be a place that could sort of possibly lead to a method of installing a PTO, but it is NOT a PTO, it is NOT a place you can easily add one, and it is NOT helpful in any way, shape, or form to someone wanting a PTO accessory.

Everyone has a different idea of major mods.

Adding a PTO requires a new transfer case at a bare minimum, probably also some finagling to fit a non-delica transfer case in to a delica. this I would consider a major mod.