Weird healight problem

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Weird healight problem

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After parking the van and off the ignition , few minutes latter the lights turn on themselves. It started to happen once in a while but know it is a constant problem.
Any ideas?
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Check to see if you have a DRL module thats melting , In my L300 it happened twice with Crappy Tire DRL thingys
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Might be your combo switch. My MPV did it for a while. Only way to know is to swap it out with a known good one.
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Artacoma wrote:Check to see if you have a DRL module thats melting , In my L300 it happened twice with Crappy Tire DRL thingys
I am no much of a mechanic where do I look for the DRL module and combo switch?
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I put virtual money on the crappy DRL mod. When I first got my wagon I got a Canadian Tire "Eliminator" battery/compressor/inverter which I then plugged into the cigarette plug to charge. I turned the engine off and walked away, when I came back I noticed that not only were my headlamps on but so was the stereo. It turns out the Eliminator was powering these items from the other side of the ignition. I mention this story because I'm wondering if somehow something is sending power to the other side of the ignition, perhaps a short in or about the DRL module?

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the combo switch is the bit behind your steering wheel that has the wiper and turn signal levers, and also turns your lights on when you rotate the end of the turn signal switch.

The one in the MPV was surprisingly mechanical (many copper contacts controlled by a grooved plate). The grooves wore enough to mess up the operation of the switch.
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I had an issue with my combo switch, which I ended up rebuilding out of other cannibalised parts (http://www.delica.ca/forum/l300-combina ... 11284.html) for my L300. From my limited experience ~ the switch gets dirty, causing the power to arc and fusing things together. When this happened to me my running lights (quarter markers) did remain on after I turned the switch off ~ but this was because the plastic carriage had arced and melted and was now a fixed part of the switch body and the only way for me to turn the lights off was to remove the fuse. This might shine a light on the problem (groan) but I'm still riding on the malfunctioning DRL system scenario.

Having said this it doesn't hurt to check out the status of the combo switch.

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Do you have a turbo timer? My DRL was incorrectly wired to my turbo timer, so my lights were on whenever it was. I would shut the van off, it would run for the timed interval and shut off, then after a few seconds the lights would turn off.

Was it just the headlights, or were the markers on too?

If it is a bad DRL, consider this mod:
http://www.delica.ca/forum/drl-mod-9982.html
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glenn wrote:Do you have a turbo timer? My DRL was incorrectly wired to my turbo timer, so my lights were on whenever it was. I would shut the van off, it would run for the timed interval and shut off, then after a few seconds the lights would turn off.

Was it just the headlights, or were the markers on too?

If it is a bad DRL, consider this mod:
http://www.delica.ca/forum/drl-mod-9982.html
No to sure about turbo timer.
no marker,just the headlight
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HI Claude, if you can drive to us in burnaby, then Jay can take a look and troubleshoot for you (we would love to come visit you in Goldbridge, one of our favourite places, but he is swamped with boat repairs just now). He has helped dozens of Delica owners and weird Delica headlight issues.

My bet is that since it is a TIME problem, do not look at the turn signal as the problem. Instead look at things which involve a timer. Specifically the alarm system; the DRL; or if you have a timer on the turbo (a thing that keep the engine running for 2 minutes to cool down before shutting engine off after you have taken the key out of the ignition).

Is there an EXACT time that the lights come on, ie 2 minutes is often the setting for the turbo timer. IF you have had an alarm system installed recently, then that is often the solution (ie 15 minutes). Or a new stereo (that stays on for a few minutes till you leave the vehicle). Something that is NOT a usual part of the delica, these things are called After Market Additions. Think about things like this, and set your stop watch to calculate the exact time.

The DRL is the daytime running lights. This is an after market thing, because in BC we must have running lights on during daylight. This is s cheap thing, that is wired in by your dealer, often mounted and dangling at the very base of the steering wheel column, near your feet. IF you look for a small box, about 3 inches by 1 inch, sometimes white with Grote in pale blue letters. Look for a dark scorch mark or burn bubble on it. This just needs to be replaced, they are cheap, they die.

Keep in touch, ask more questions. We are all happy to help. I can give you our phone number if you find that easier than typing.
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TardisDeli wrote:HI Claude, if you can drive to us in burnaby, then Jay can take a look and troubleshoot for you (we would love to come visit you in Goldbridge, one of our favourite places, but he is swamped with boat repairs just now). He has helped dozens of Delica owners and weird Delica headlight issues.

My bet is that since it is a TIME problem, do not look at the turn signal as the problem. Instead look at things which involve a timer. Specifically the alarm system; the DRL; or if you have a timer on the turbo (a thing that keep the engine running for 2 minutes to cool down before shutting engine off after you have taken the key out of the ignition).

Is there an EXACT time that the lights come on, ie 2 minutes is often the setting for the turbo timer. IF you have had an alarm system installed recently, then that is often the solution (ie 15 minutes). Or a new stereo (that stays on for a few minutes till you leave the vehicle). Something that is NOT a usual part of the delica, these things are called After Market Additions. Think about things like this, and set your stop watch to calculate the exact time.

The DRL is the daytime running lights. This is an after market thing, because in BC we must have running lights on during daylight. This is s cheap thing, that is wired in by your dealer, often mounted and dangling at the very base of the steering wheel column, near your feet. IF you look for a small box, about 3 inches by 1 inch, sometimes white with Grote in pale blue letters. Look for a dark scorch mark or burn bubble on it. This just needs to be replaced, they are cheap, they die.

Keep in touch, ask more questions. We are all happy to help. I can give you our phone number if you find that easier than typing.
Cheers, Christine.
Hi Christine ,
We would love to pass by your place but since we live far and don't have a place to say around Vancouver we don't anymore go there often.
here the door is always open come for a visit in paradise anytime.
As for the Delica my first problem is the turn signal stay on the left no matter and then the DRl comes on around 2 to 5 minutes after the ignition is off. I had a cheap stereo install a year a go and a no problem since the installation. No alarm system.
I will take a look at the DRL module tomorrow .
thanks for the help
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Claude

The DRL, if it's connected the a black wire with a thick blue stripe under the fuse box in the engine bay, disconnect it and I'll send you the instruction to wire it up correctly. Yours may be linked to a hot wire even with the ignition switch off.
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jessef wrote:Claude

The DRL, if it's connected the a black wire with a thick blue stripe under the fuse box in the engine bay, disconnect it and I'll send you the instruction to wire it up correctly. Yours may be linked to a hot wire even with the ignition switch off.
Here some pics that I took this morning maybe that will help to located the DRL
Thanks a bunch
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looks like it's hard wired (yellow) wire.

trace the yellow wire from the headlights and let me know which contact wire it goes to under the fuse box.
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jessef wrote:looks like it's hard wired (yellow) wire.

trace the yellow wire from the headlights and let me know which contact wire it goes to under the fuse box.
That is what i found following the Yellow wire. A relay I suppose, and the other wire go to the headlight .
Could it be that the relay is faulty.?
with Ignition off light is on and when I unplug a wire light comes off
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