Taking a break from Delica.ca....another Green1

[thedjjack]

I am taking a break from Delica.ca

I am unhappy with the recent thread which the "new" carefully selected Moderator started a fight with the original poster Jesse and then decided to move all the post including my posts to "the last word".

I am no sure how a moderator can take a post off topic and than decided the post is off topic and move it.

No offence to NXSKI but I am not even sure how a new member with limited knowledge became a moderator. In the post the only other moderator complained that their was not enough moderators. Deleting and moving posts destroys the thread and makes me feel like my posts are a waste of my time. It is to Monarch or Dictatorship for me sorry.

Falco bitched he was doing this all alone (which he says is the only way).

I just feel the site has gone way down hill and has no leadership at the top. I will re-post the stuff i had posted (which is all I asked Falco to do to keep me). And I am going to take a break.

I did not care about the dealer postings (how ever new rules that take 3 months to bring into effect????).

Enjoy the rest of the summer. People know where I am at.

Cheers

David

[thedjjack]

my previous moved POSTS> this is my topic please do not tell me I am off topic?

Another thing to note is that this forum is not a democracy and Falco along with the other moderators were appointed. That being said, a lot of thought goes into choosing a new moderator.

Yes it is NOT A DEMOCRACY and this is why Delica.ca will fail (not the reality I want to see, but the reality of every other forum I have belong to that is structured this way...Power corrupts).

Yes, lots of thought does go into choosing a new moderator here is how I see it:

Who will do what we want and follow only our narrow vision, who will not listen to what the majority of the group wants, who will not have ideas different then us....where will we find a sheep....(I am not sure if this is OUR Vision or MY Vision (since I do not know if it is Mark and/or Falco who is KING).

Finally, yes Jesse is guilty of some attacks....but Steven has been just as bad lately if not worse.


Perfect example of the problems with site would be the recent changes to the Beef section where the post was locked and new rules brought forward by the Monarchy....Few weeks later and non of the rules are being followed and we have a bunch of people attacking a dealer again?


There are some very knowledgeable members that could have made this site awesome (people who develop websites and networks for a living. Unfortunately these people have gone away because they wanted to have a voice in what Delica.ca is..

I am not sure how we can have the Utopia Delia Lama site when all members are not treated with respect and honour.... Falco if you really believe that things are like the teachings of the Delia Lama I am actually panicked that you current have all the control.

[thedjjack]

my previous moved POSTS> this is my topic please do not tell me I am off topic?

I by no means am trying to say that Jesse is constantly causing problems or that there are no other players are involved. I agree that he has made a lot of very valid points. Delica.ca is constantly trying to improve and when others constantly try to re-start arguments about change before any has been made just seems unproductive. (this is not directed at any specific person).

I do not care if Delica.ca changes....I only warn it will fail or loose all the useful people (both are failing in my mind). I do not really need the forum as I have email, telephone for support I need ( ).

The current administration will be its failure.

This is a Website change should be quick. PERIOD.

Are these the changes like the BEEF section that had new rules only to end one thread and never used again?

Are there any other moderators (does not really matter as they have no power or control).

People like Jesse, Christine, etc should be running the show. People with actual knowledge and who truely care about the Delica community.

We need technical people who actually know how to work, fix, mod, repair, get parts, what parts, ect in control.

I have posted this before with no response from the current GODS (I know you do like being called GODS but a spade is a spade).

[thedjjack]

my previous moved POSTS> this is my topic please do not tell me I am off topic?

How did you become a moderator ?

The GOD(S) pick?

If moderators are appointed, who appoints them ?

The GOD(S)....my understanding from others is it does not really matter as the Moderators have no authority or power (if they try they become mortals again).

my previous moved POSTS> this is my topic please do not tell me I am off topic?

Why have my post been moved if I wanted my post here I would have posted here!

I expect either an explanation and a supporting rule that already exists or I want my posts put back

If that cannot be done I want my posts deleted from this thread and I am about to be a green1.

David



If I do end up going green1 for a while...I to have no problem with phone/emails People know where I am....

Waiting a response from GOD.

[psilosin]

Unlike Green1 your departure is a huge loss to this site. You are another of the small handful of people that post innovative and helpful tech/mods that are the reason this site has the number of members it does.

[deli1733]

Ya I echo what you say thedjjack. The way the newest moderator was picked is a joke. Ive rescently joined a new pulblic forum that is way more organized and has hundreds of posts a day, and on that site 20% of the posts arent loyal members complaining about incompitence. Not that I contribute a whole lot but I do frequent here quite often and have learned a lot, but I'm also going to stop visiting this site. The way Falco waves you off and 'wishes you the best' is pretty smug.

[thedjjack]

Like I said I am still around just taking a break from the site...email, phone all work better than this site at the moment

I would like a response...or I am out....

Got your PM with the little campfire, Thedjjack. You are welcome here, of course ~ but we never like to hold a man against his will. You are free to come and go as you please.

You are correct, Mark and I have chosen this, because we believe in the community that has become of it, despite the recent attempts to overturn the apple cart and even receive the occasional letter of commendation. If the site policy does not agree with your personal code of ethics and you decide that you must leave then I wish all the best to you and your family in your life and travels, you will be missed.

Should you find a way reconcile any differences that have occurred ~ then of course your positive contribution is respected.

Falco.

Quotes from: http://www.delica.ca/forum/welcome-to-t ... tml#p88135

Falco if you mean I am correct that Mark and You have chosen to be a monarch not listen to your membership then we do agree. You two have made a site where you best long term members are all leaving....congratulations....

I feel most sorry for new members who are missing out on some serious knowledge base that is leaving (not referring to myself here)

I have not heard about the people trying to overturn the apple cart...but I am not surprised.

Thanks for the calls and emails. I am around.

Cheers
David

[jessef]

you're the only hightop !

[thedjjack]

As far as I can tell I now have received my Second Board Warning for the following post in the Injector Post....below is my post.

Sorry I do not except the administration does not have time to assign warnings to some people (if you have more then 3 active people this would not be an issue ...but I see that post was deleted).

I am officially GREEN2.0 TardisDeli has my contacts.....


Here is the post which is still up and not deleted but I have my second warning?

If I wanted my post in the LAST WORD CAFE I WOULD POST THEM THERE

THIS MEETS THE RULES (I am not the two dealers you cannot control)

What is the OEM part numbers for the two motors?

Is there an OEM cross reference that says the part numbers are interchangeable?

thedjjack:
this 2 engine has diff type of injector and nozzle tip.
they dont do cross reference not the same\:
cheers;
Mardy

Thanks Mardy that was my argument if Mitsubishi does not list the same part number or say that you can cross reference the two parts it would seem logical that injectors are not the same...

I am not saying you cannot do it...however I would like to see a logical reason to use the wrong injectors in a motor then because they fit...For example if the 4M40 injectors have allowed more fuel into 4D56 motor or something to increase fuel (than this might be a useful intentional use of the wrong part for performance applications)....

[Firesong]

I think everyone needs to chill.
My thoughts.

I ran a paintball forum back in the day, same things happened.
Problem was, I owned it, paid for it but others wanted it
done differently. It was mine.

It's something about the internet that makes people more likely
to butt heads than if they were all present in person.

It would be different if there was a membership charge. $$$

Just lurking is all ;)
FS

[Luna-Sea]

Sorry to read this,
You are a great knowledgeable contributor, fearless modification ninja
and a helluva nice guy.

Hang in there.

[psilosin]

Green2.0?...thats like insulting yourself. You are a hell of a lot cooler that Green1 ever was.

[Pajero]

I think everyone needs to chill.
My thoughts.

I ran a paintball forum back in the day, same things happened.
Problem was, I owned it, paid for it but others wanted it
done differently. It was mine.

It's something about the internet that makes people more likely
to butt heads than if they were all present in person.

It would be different if there was a membership charge. $$$

Just lurking is all ;)
FS

I hear your point, but I think If a site does not listen somewhat to the people who joined and make the site work and is what it is today. They run the risk of people like green 1 and green 2.0 leaving and not coming back. If only they would do something about it rather handing out warnings like the one I got, when people become frustrated and post things they would not usually do.

I hope this is a positive enough contribution.....would hate to get locked out.....

Joe

[BproofOG]

I do far more reading than posting, but I do agree this site has been less active and less interesting than it previously was....
I hope these people with their knowlege of these unqiue vans continue to read posts here and in time hopefully start to contribue again.

These are just my thoughts.

[RichD]

I think everyone needs to chill.
I ran a paintball forum back in the day, same things happened.
Problem was, I owned it, paid for it but others wanted it
done differently. It was mine.

It's something about the internet that makes people more likely
to butt heads than if they were all present in person.

It would be different if there was a membership charge. $$$

Respectfully I have to disagree with you buddy. I've been using social communications tools like this one since the mid-80s, long before the web - since I was a child in fact. I've actively participated in countless BBS's, forums, guilds, and they all run on a social contract, one in which the community is the owner of the forum and the host or webmaster provides shelter and support. (and for the record that social contract is not a monetary transaction as you suggest) Whenever the leadership steps up and tries to assert unilateral control the social contract is broken and the community fragments and breaks down. I've seen it many times and its always ugly. That is what is happening here at delica.ca.

You are wrong to assume that this is just keyboard warriors having it out. Factually, we have hashed this out in person as well. For those of us in the Lower Mainland and environs this site is a companion to a real circle of friends and a community that was thriving. What goes on here on delica.ca goes on in emails and phone calls and texts and informal meets every day - not meets in parking lots but actual friends meeting in backyards and shops and enjoying meals and weekend trips together. Delica.ca used to be the hub of our community and we've started replacing that with other fragmented ad hoc medium. Certain people have been completely isolated because of this conflict, people who used to be regular features of our social scene. You can see the tension and the lines drawn between these people in the forum threads.

What you are watching is not a forum that is struggling because of too many differing opinions. That is a very shallow summation of what is going on. What you are watching is a community in the throes of falling apart. Like a family losing its home, this is not a pretty sight. (edit: typo was not an intentional pun)