Alcohol-water injection for Turbo diesels Good cheap HP/TQ

[delicat]

As it stands this is what the cost would be + or - a few options...

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By ordering more than one kit the shipping cost would be cut by 1/2 for each of us (just about) and this shipping price is for here in BC, not to Blaine which would be around $11 for one kit.

No idea yet if it'd be worth to order the self sealing bulk head or the soft pipe adapter... I'm sure the kit can be installed without all those nice instant fitting pieces by using usual clamps but after installing a veggie kit on my bus and finding small leaks once in a while it might be nice to have something that works without headache.

Thanks for the update Guamdoc and additional discount.

[guamdoc]

Our standard tank tap is leak free as long as you use the drill bit sized as the directions. It also comes with a neoprene bonded washer to seal it off. You can add a dab of RTV to secure it if you like to the surface of the bonded washer. Install is pretty strait forward with very detailed directions included with the kit.

[fexlboi]

Our standard tank tap is leak free as long as you use the drill bit sized as the directions. It also comes with a neoprene bonded washer to seal it off. You can add a dab of RTV to secure it if you like to the surface of the bonded washer. Install is pretty strait forward with very detailed directions included with the kit.

Thanks a lot guamdoc for the additional discount. Could you please also include a few of your stickers in our kits? Do you have them in black as well? It's always good advertising :)

[guamdoc]

Oh the kits come with stickers, Has a set of 5 total 2 big and 2 small ones that say just devilsown and a small one that looks like the O with the devil horns.

Did i mention I was in Iraq But hey still got a business to help run.
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[fexlboi]

If you do go with the dual nozzle set up request 2 (DO1) Nozzles this is the combo that works on your engine anymore you'll loose power if not running alcohol. If your getting the regular kit just request a D01 and D02 nozzles.

Sorry, but I'm still confused. On your Forum you wrote a D02 is the best for our engines: http://www.alcohol-injection.com/forum/ ... -1833.html
Or is it just if you use it as a single nozzle system?

[guamdoc]

If you do go with the dual nozzle set up request 2 (DO1) Nozzles this is the combo that works on your engine anymore you'll loose power if not running alcohol. If your getting the regular kit just request a D01 and D02 nozzles.

Sorry, but I'm still confused. On your Forum you wrote a D02 is the best for our engines: http://www.alcohol-injection.com/forum/ ... -1833.html
Or is it just if you use it as a single nozzle system?

Single nozzle set up D02 is the max nozzle size, you can also run a D01 here. For strait water D01 max size or you will loose HP.
Dual nozzle set up pre-turbo and nozzle after the intercooler or at the intake D01 and D01 same here you need at least 15% alcohol.

[Profister]

guamdoc wrote:

Did i mention I was in Iraq But hey still got a business to help run.
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The last thing I would like to see on this forum is bloody american weapons.
Where is Moderator?

[Meanman]

Canadians use the same weapon...different name.

Pro Patria

James

[Luna-Sea]

Uh I think Golf Cart has one of those in his glove box too!

[guamdoc]

Well, didn't know you would get offended, That's really the only clean spot in my little wood shack of a room here, I am after all a US Navy Corpsman serving with a marine unit. Not my choice to be stuck in stupid Iraq, And I been here a while it has been removed.

Oh well back on topic.

If you guys need install tips just check or forum or post up your questions, I saw a couple of you placed a order yesterday, one was for a dual nozzle set up. If you got nozzle placement questions, it's best to send a pic of your engine bay and I'll repost it after I edit were it should be on Paint.

[delicat]

I'll take pics for you Guamdoc but for now just curious what's your take on the following:

You suggest mounting the nozzles pre-turbo and at the intake but on your site they either don't recommend it (pre-turbo) or that it's very difficult and would require reducing the fuel delivery (intake)

Pre-Turbo water

"We don't recommend this location at all if you do not have the proper equipment such as the proper nozzle, nozzle size and high pressure pump. Locating the nozzle here is the most controversial location. The majority of alcohol/water injection users do not use this location. One reason for someone to inject at this location is the water/methanol mixture chemically alters the turbo compressor map. The water/methanol injection will dynamically shifts the compressor map of the turbo so that it has the compressor map exhibits the characteristics of a larger turbo. This sounds great but, the main issue with pre-turbo nozzle placement is what mixture can damage the compressor blade if the mixture is not properly atomized when passing through the turbo.

In order to inject pre-turbo with out compressor damage you need a high quality low volume nozzle and high enough pressure to get the water as finely misted as possible, and the smaller nozzle which allows for smaller/finer water droplets. We recommend you mount the nozzle as close to the compresser as possible."

So, can we expect compressor blades damages or the D01 will provide the required atomization?

Intake manifold

This location can be the most complex area to install. Usually requiring that he intake be removed for access. Injecting here is going to yield the largest water/methanol droplets. And with the closer proximity to the combustion chambers is going to provide a larger amount of mixture into the cylinders. Doing this usually requires more fuel from the factory system be removed. This option is best for max cooling.

The water here is being injected in a manner much like port fuel injection and it is the bigger water molecules being injected here that have a more direct effect of in cylinder cooling and injection here has more of an effect of altering the flame front of the combustion charge in a way much like a higher octane fuel. To take full advantage of this nozzle location it is suggested that trimming away some of the factory dumped fuel be done. In other words, in order to take advantage of the better properties of water over fuel for cooling and injecting water at this location, you want to remove the dumped fuel and actually REPLACE this with water. This injection point with a pretty sophisticated WI control method allows for the most advantageous use of water injection. The drawback for nozzles located heres is kit/component complexity, install complexity, additional labor, possible machine shop costs, and possible additional parts costs.

[jessef]

David.

Are you going to run solely on water or with a mix ?

[delicat]

mix, not sure yet at which ratio though...

[Delicanadabc]

Hey David,

I am ready to get one of these kits if you are still going ahead. The issue is that I am taking off to Thailand in less then a week, well not an issues really(lol). So can I make a cheque out to you so that you have the funds available while I am gone or what do you have in mind.

Does the kit come in black, cuss if there is any chrome on there you know flexibo won't like it!!!

Thank you,
Daniel

[delicat]

Hi Daniel,

I placed the order about 1 hour ago! Sorry! Can you contact them and ask them to ship it with my order? I'll PM you the order number. That way we could receive it on your behalf and you should also save on shipping, just ask to pay the difference in shipping cost...