Frozen Solid Delica Icecube... Won't Budge.

[Wolfgang]

Hopefully someone can offer me some help, because frankly I am at wits end.

I got a guy (Len at Automotion) here in edmonton to install a block heater in my Delica,
supposedly the one I bought wasn't good enough, so he installed a "circulating" block heater.
Even when plugged in and with diesel additive to prevent fuel freezing I can't get my Deli started,
in -10, yet alone -20 and below. It's not the battery, and I tried other recommendations from
the forum.

Hopefully someone out there can offer me some advice to get my frozen van started. I do realize
that I need an Oil Change to put in winter oil, but I can't even do that, since the sucker won't
even budge.

Hopefully someone can help me out.

Chris.

[konadog]

It's not the battery, and I tried other recommendations from the forum.

Does that include new glow plugs?

[Wolfgang]

My glow plugs seem to be doing fine I hear them go and let them
charge a few times before starting... i imagine if they need replacing,
they simply don't work... correct me if I am wrong.

[konadog]

The clicking you hear does not mean the plugs are working. Others can tell you how to test them, and there have been a number of posts you can search about glow plugs, but from what I know about the situation you describe, new ones will resolve your starting issue. Good luck and keep us posted

[Wolfgang]

Thanks!

That may be the problem, but it seems at though everything is frozen solid.

Does anybody have Glow Plug part numbers, also where to get?
one more thing.. installation/changing of these, can anybody offer
me instructions... I am very new at this.

Thanks again fro all your help.

chris

[Green1]

My glow plugs seem to be doing fine I hear them go and let them
charge a few times before starting... i imagine if they need replacing,
they simply don't work... correct me if I am wrong.

you're wrong

If it's the controller it will sound different, but if it's the plugs themselves the sounds will be the same whether they work or not.

They make a huge starting difference.

Perhaps though a better question is, how does it start at +10c?
Any thing that is a little problem at warm temperatures will become a HUGE problem at cold temperatures.

I am currently battling a starting problem of my own. I know it's not my battery (brand new and spins the starter at 500rpm for a LONG time), or plugs (brand new), or glow controller (it's putting voltage to the plugs). I'm suspecting injection pump, however I've had that looked at by a specialist here in Calgary (GCL Fuel Systems) who insist that everything is fine...
Unfortunately, in this weather, there is very little troubleshooting I can do with it, first because it's too cold to spend much time working on it, secondly because everyone will just blame the cold instead of fixing the problem, I happen to know it doesn't start right at +20, but I can't prove that at -25

I'm getting close to frustrated enough to take a road trip to CVI, I just wish I could get it fixed locally though!

[konadog]

Does anybody have Glow Plug part numbers, also where to get?

http://wikrad.com/delica/index.cgi?glowplugs

[jessef]

See my post

http://www.delica.ca/forum/driving-with ... -4364.html

[twisted]

Hey Wolfgang, I got my glowplugs through West end mittsi here in edmonton. Give them the part number ( from this site ) and they can get them in. Cost me $130. Check the votage at the plugs. My problem is I am only getting 9 volts to them, and after playing around I have lost power to the solinoid wire at the starter. Can any one point me in the right direction as to the start cuircut? I can also give you a hand if you need it.

[Green1]

the plugs draw a LOT of current, as such a low voltage reading (well bellow 12v) is normal, however if it is down as low as 9, I would suspect that your batteries aren't handling the drain as well as they possibly could...

[twisted]

Batteries are new. I thought it may be in the glowplug control box.

[Green1]

Batteries are new. I thought it may be in the glowplug control box

unlikely, that box has 3 options, 0v (off) 6v (standard) or 12v (rapid) (12v tends to be more like 10.5-11 due to the current draw)
if it's not the batteries, i'd say likely a loose connection somewhere causing a voltage drop.

on a somewhat related note, I have been trying for a few hours now to get my Delica going... without being plugged in there was no hope, plugged it in for a few hours today and it still wouldn't go, but I noticed one of the terminals on the starter motor was glowing red hot, so I tightened that up, and it doesn't glow any more, and the starter seems to spin better... vehicle still won't start yet though, but I've got a battery charger on it now and I'll try again in an hour or so... (remember I have an other starting problem too, even in warm weather, so I may be overly optimistic...)

[twisted]

Starer conections are good, replaced the starter last week. When I was trying to start it I moved my block heaters ( magnetic between injection pump and head ) smelled a hint of burnt smell and there was no power to solinoid. Any ideas as to what there is in that area related to the start cuircit?

[Green1]

you're talking the fuel shut-off solenoid?

I think you're in to a part that I'm not overly familiar with...

[twisted]

No. No power to starter solinoid. a plug came undone burnt smell and no power after plugging back in. Is there a fuse for the start cuircit?