Guinness World Record with Delica October 1st Mile Zero

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Post by driventosustain » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:58 am

konadog wrote:are a serious concern for sure
Some of you MIGHT be thinking I'm a city kid and what does he know about bears. Trust me, I have worked in the bush for over 7 years and have been a hunter for 15. I can deal.

Every ones concern is justified and well received

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Post by konadog » Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:44 pm

Some of you MIGHT be thinking I'm a city kid and what does he know about bears
Specific comments not directed at you my friend, just adding to the discussion in general... my point in that one was simply that bears see veggie oil as FOOD and that cougars do not :M :-D
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Post by driventosustain » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:41 am

Event Info Host: Lucky Bar
Type: Party - Benefit

Time and Place Start Time: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 at 10:00pm
End Time: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 at 2:00am

Location: Lucky Bar
Street: 517 Yates Street
City/Town: Victoria, BC


Lucky is onboard to help us fundraise for our expedition- Driven to Sustain.

If you haven't heard, Tyson and Cloe are planning to break the current world record for “Longest Journey by Car using Alternative Fuel.” Waste Vegetable Oil (WVO) will power their vehicle across Canada, the US, and possibly Mexico.

Along the way they will be visiting locations where individuals and communities are living sustainably, successfully. Tyson and Cloe will deliver the knowledge that they gain on sustainability through public discussion, lectures in schools, radio and television media broadcasting, newspaper and magazine publications, websites, podcasts, internet broadcasting, along the way and then a video documentary and possibly a TV series upon their return.

The couple are preparing to drive their Mitsubishi Delica more than forty-five thousand kilometers on WVO to surpass the current world record of 38,137 kilometers.

Quoia and Funk Vigilante and others are donating their time to provide us with entertainment!

Lets rock out

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Post by driventosustain » Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:04 am

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Post by Jonny5ive » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:37 pm

I support you guys all the way. Have a great trip and be safe!

All good things!

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Post by after oil » Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:33 am

havent heard from you guys here on the forum for a while. if you are embarking in three days then you must have your conversion done. how did the converison go? any photos? looking forward to seeing you!

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Post by driventosustain » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:37 am

journey is going WELL. We are having a blast!

photos of the system and 360 views will be available when i have time

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Post by mararmeisto » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:59 am

driventosustain wrote:journey is going WELL. We are having a blast!

photos of the system and 360 views will be available when i have time
I've been following on your webpage; looks interesting. I've driven across the continent four times, but always with a deadline, in a straight line. I imagine it much more interesting driving it the way you two are. Good luck and keep those little vids coming.
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Post by Golf Cart » Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:10 pm

Although I commend Tyson and Cloe on their dedication to their cause, I was hoping to see more of what reactions they are getting from people, what other sustainable ideas they are coming across on their journey.

People living totally off the grid, relying on solar, turbine systems for power, alternative living accomodations built using windfall, strawbuilt dwellings and such. What smaller communities are doing to lessen the "Carbon Crator". I'm hoping for WVO fired heat systems for greenhouses

Looks like fun just the same !
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Post by jrman » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:27 am

While we could all do our best to reduce our footprint on this planet, and I appreciate the efforts made by all in this regard, I think the best form of consumption control is actually population control. But that doesn't seem to be a very sexy topic in this world for some reason.

And in reference to the last video showing the harvesting of timber....I also believe in the value of converting mature timber stands into building products that will keep carbon "sequestered" out of the carbon cycle for very very long periods of time, while allowing new young thriving young forests to take their place, and further compound the amount of CO2 taken out of the atmosphere.

Logging & cutblocks are not sexy either - but the ultimate irony of the environmental movement against the forest products industry is that the more mature timber that is processed and replaced by younger faster growing forests, is truly better for the environment overall...the science is there, just take the time to learn for those that don't believe....It doesn't hurt to also keep in mind that the alternative to having wooden based buildings systems is steel & concrete systems, and the energy and environmental impact required to manufacture buildings from those systems far exceeds that of good old fashioned timber frame systems.
The definition of irony in my opinion.

Wood is mother natures building material and is a wholly renewable resource when managed properly. The only permanent deforestation happening in BC is in the form of "urbanization"....which brings me back to population control......save the planet, buy a condom.
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Post by docsavage » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:12 am

Hear Hear Sean,

In BC we practice some of the best sustainable forestry in the world. I consider myself to be a strong environmentalist and am always working to reduce my footprint on earth. I am also a professional forester and help to provide a sustainable supply of wood products to the world. Wood is a green building product and clearcuts are not ecological disasters. The great thing about wood is it grows back and stores carbon for years. I joined the forest industry because I wanted to help make sure we manage our forests to the highest standards. So please, consider the thousand of forestry workers in this province as some of the strongest environmentalists providing consumers with the ultimate green building material.

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Re: Guinness World Record with Delica October 1st Mile Zero

Post by after oil » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:14 am

i call bullshit! (but with all due respect)

okay, i havent seen the science, (show it me!) but i dont see how a young forest of tiny growing trees can sequester more CO2 than a mature stand of giant growing trees. as well the slash left in the cutblocks release CO2 as they decompose or burn. and how does a house sequester CO2?

also, the alternative to building with wood, is not steel and concrete but clay and sand and straw. more than 1/2 the worlds population live in earthen buildings. there are thousands of cob houses in britain and wales that are hundreds of years old.
there are many cob building projects on the coast, and many already finished projects. cob is fine for the wet coast as long as the structure has a good cap and boots (roof and foundation)
cob is not very popular with mainstream and commercial industry (ie capital) because the materials are mostly free

and to be clear: i respect all working people. i am not having children. (im 37 and married) (too bad theres no "green" condom :shock: )


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Post by docsavage » Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:29 am

Lots of information on the web, a simple search will provide hours of reading. Try starting here :

http://www.corrim.org/

and here

http://carbon.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/index_e.html

And yes, there are cob, straw, rammed earth, tire, bottle and all kinds of other building material, but what would be the effect on the earth if all that material was used to build the millions of houses required for people. There just isn't enough of it, and it will always remain a very small percentage of houses built for those who like to live outside the box. I have even considered building with one of these other materials (timber framed bottle house). In the end they all still use wood, be it for the timber frame, window frames, trim, floors, etc.

A thrifty stand of young trees takes up carbon dioxide at a much higher rate that a mature stand (sometimes called old growth). As a tree matures its growth rate declines rapidly. Eventually a mature stand reaches an equilibrium where it takes up very little carbon and releases more due to breakage and decomposition. Trees converted to lumber do not release their carbon until they rot or are burned. The slash left behind from logging is an issue especially up here with dry pine stands, but there are several benefits to the slash. As it decomposes it releases nutrients back to the soil to help the future stands grow. It provides food for millions of organisms, provides cover for small mammals, and many others. In terms of slash use, there are several areas where roadside slash is processed and hauled to facilities to be used as pellets for wood heat, burned in power plants, used to create heavy diesel, and so on. Again, we are just in the infancy of using this source of fibre, and the economics aren't quite there yet. If they took the billions they waste on protecting oil and gas interests and invested in research on alternative fuels (all kinds) then perhaps there would be a change.

I am as open to change as the next person, if the forest industry were to go away tomorrow I'm smart enough to get another job. I've protested logging in the past, then I decided to learn more about forestry so I could talk with some insight on forest practices. As it turns out, in Canada does a pretty good job of managing our forests and it beats the hell out of sending wood production to countries with few standards.

Sorry to get off topic, but until everyone stops reading papers, living in wood houses, and wiping their bums, the forest industry in Canada will be around to provide wood for consumers.

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