Manual Locking Hubs L300 & L400 - Group Buy

[loki]

OK - total n00b question here but...

What is the practical benefit of manual vs. auto-locking hubs? I found the following thread to be the clearest explanation (not a Mitsu thread but I'm assuming the principle is correct for the L400 system):

http://www.automotiveforums.com/t382428.html

...but I'm assuming that whatever vacuum engagement mechanism first engages the auto hubs (which I have on my L400) keeps them engaged even in reverse. Also, once I shift from 4->2WD, I do not need to reverse to disengage my front hubs; they engage and disengage at a standstill going from 2WD to 4WD to 2WD (with unlocked centre diff).

So are manual hubs merely a simpler, more reliable, slightly more hassle incarnation of auto hubs? (no vacuum lines/solenoids to go bad, etc...)? Or is there something else I am missing? Thanks!

The L400s don't have auto hubs, they have flanges, these are always locked.

[kb&2dogs]

We are interested in this buy, but we still aren't sure if they are as good as the ones we had (Superwinch), other than the bolts being better. How do you want to do the payment?

[fexlboi]

Are you waiting for shipment to arrive or payment first?

Wayne, I go with payment first. Preferable PayPal.

We are interested in this buy, but we still aren't sure if they are as good as the ones we had (Superwinch), other than the bolts being better.

Honestly, I have no idea. Haven't heard about this brand before. I just know this supplier is specialized in 4x4 accessories for JDM vehicles and that's the only brand he can provide.

What is the practical benefit of manual vs. auto-locking hubs?

Please use the search. There are several very informative threads about that.

[flyfishn]

What would it cost to install?

[fexlboi]

What would it cost to install?

They are really easy to install. You don't even need any special tools.

[flyfishn]

hmmm, well as long as "ALL THUMBS" works ;-O

[thelazybrownfox]

Felix
Paypal is okay as long as you are a paypal member. Some may not be, so an alternate payment system may be required. Set it up and I'll send you payment.

Is there any warranty or guarantee on the hubs? Superwinch had quite a reputation but I don't know these hubs.
thanks
Wayne

[fexlboi]

Paypal is okay as long as you are a paypal member. Some may not be, so an alternate payment system may be required. Set it up and I'll send you payment. Is there any warranty or guarantee on the hubs? Superwinch had quite a reputation but I don't know these hubs.

Cheques or cash are fine too. Will send out PMs before I'll order.
Let's wait a little bit and see how many people are actually interested. Maybe we can get a better price.

I'll ask for warranty.

[fexlboi]

Warranty is 1 year.

This guys are already on the list. Anybody else?

thelazybrownfox
Firesong
kb&2dogs
Manitoba deli

[flyfishn]

I know guys have had their auto hubs disinigrate in the bush, but for a "schmoo" like myself that does not venture off road (daily driver paranoia) , is there a real need for the maual hubs?

[fexlboi]

I know guys have had their auto hubs disinigrate in the bush, but for a "schmoo" like myself that does not venture off road (daily driver paranoia) , is there a real need for the maual hubs?

If you don't go off road, the only advantage would be less wear and probably a little tiny bit better fuel economy, because the front wheels are completely disengaged.

[thelazybrownfox]

Fishn
Better fuel economy, less wear and tear on your front axle, and possibly quieter ride from less moving parts. That's what I've heard so far.
Wayne

[flyfishn]

Thanks guys.

[konadog]

I am very happy to have the manual hubs and think they are the best option, and went to them from perma-locked flanges, but didn't notice any improvement in fuel economy...

[nvanadm]

Count me in for a set...I missed the last one and don't want to miss it again.

I will be ordering some supplies from Mardy shortly (or can be whenever...no rush on them), do you think you or someone can get them to Mardy for me so that I can save some shipping costs to Ontario?

Adam