Way too high fuel consumption: the sequel ++ parts inquiry?

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Way too high fuel consumption: the sequel ++ parts inquiry?

Post by lost2 »

Hi there,

I made my way to the garage today to inspect our 1990's L300. Here is a summary of this visit:

*Front left calliper was partially seized, which is certainly the main reason for our 'out of the range' fuel consumption. I am amazed though that the van wasn't pulling on the left as I would have suspected...

*Front brake pads and rear brake shoes need to be replaced.

*Valve cover gasket is leaking (especially the 'half moon' part of it). Some of the dripping oil is falling on the exhaust system, making nice odour!

*The muffler has a much bigger hole than when I first inpected it 2 weeks ago.

*The timing belt is in a very good shape: no cracks at all. I still want to change most of that rig (belts, tensioners, water pump), but I am just a bit more confortable with the fact that I won't be able to do it within a few weeks.

*The front left upper ball joint is torn and need to be replace.

Some inquiries now on parts number...

Trying to find parts equivalence is a pain. My first question: everytime we look for a part related to the engine 4D56T / 2.5l, we narrow it to the 83-84 Dodge Ram 50 (I believe it has a engine called 4D55), but they have no 2.5 , only a 2.3 l. Will the parts for this engine fit the 2.5l (belts, tensioners, valve cover gasket, etc.)? Listings also say there is a 2.3 l Diesel (4D55) on the Ford Ranger 1987...

Second question: I've been browsing throught this forum but couldn't find which north american vehicule uses similar brake parts (front calliper, rotor, brake pad and shoes). Is there any Montero, Vanwagon or other model, using brake parts corresponding to a 1990 Mitsubishi Delica 4WD ? I gathered some numbers out of the 'canadian part list' (ex.:Arnley Calipers 077-10595), but they have no equivalence at Carquest and Uniselect (USI Parts). It is much easier to strat a research with a north-american listed vehicule model.

Third question: same as above, but concerning the muffler. Mine is 15½ inches long (let's say 19" with the shields), a side to side in-out design, with a approximative 1 7/8" diameter muffler tubing. I would rather buy a new one with the proper spec, but I dont mind modifying a bit as long as a have the proper ratio of air passing throught it...

I put on another tread, the results of my researches about parts numbers.

Davy
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Re: Way too high fuel consumption: the sequel ++ parts inquiry?

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lost2 wrote:Hi there,

I made my way to the garage today to inspect our 1990's L300. Here is a summary of this visit:

*Front left calliper was partially seized, which is certainly the main reason for our 'out of the range' fuel consumption. I am amazed though that the van wasn't pulling on the left as I would have suspected... Replace both sides at the same time

*Front brake pads and rear brake shoes need to be replaced.

*Valve cover gasket is leaking (especially the 'half moon' part of it). Some of the dripping oil is falling on the exhaust system, making nice odour! very common. use some rtv sealant when installing it

*The muffler has a much bigger hole than when I first inpected it 2 weeks ago.

*The timing belt is in a very good shape: no cracks at all. I still want to change most of that rig (belts, tensioners, water pump), but I am just a bit more confortable with the fact that I won't be able to do it within a few weeks.

*The front left upper ball joint is torn and need to be replace. check your tie rods too

Some inquiries now on parts number...

Trying to find parts equivalence is a pain. My first question: everytime we look for a part related to the engine 4D56T / 2.5l, we narrow it to the 83-84 Dodge Ram 50 (I believe it has a engine called 4D55), but they have no 2.5 , only a 2.3 l. Will the parts for this engine fit the 2.5l (belts, tensioners, valve cover gasket, etc.)? Listings also say there is a 2.3 l Diesel (4D55) on the Ford Ranger 1987... Engine block is the same but the heads are different, so head components/valve cover/etc... will not match with the 4D56T

Second question: I've been browsing throught this forum but couldn't find which north american vehicule uses similar brake parts (front calliper, rotor, brake pad and shoes). Is there any Montero, Vanwagon or other model, using brake parts corresponding to a 1990 Mitsubishi Delica 4WD ? I gathered some numbers out of the 'canadian part list' (ex.:Arnley Calipers 077-10595), but they have no equivalence at Carquest and Uniselect (USI Parts). It is much easier to strat a research with a north-american listed vehicule model. L300 equivalent application : 1988 Mitsubishi Montero 4cyl or V6 for brake rotors/calipers/pads

Third question: same as above, but concerning the muffler. Mine is 15½ inches long (let's say 19" with the shields), a side to side in-out design, with a approximative 1 7/8" diameter muffler tubing. I would rather buy a new one with the proper spec, but I dont mind modifying a bit as long as a have the proper ratio of air passing throught it... if you're getting a new muffler/exhaust , you may as well upgrade to a 2 1/4" exhaust for more power/lower EGT/better breathing

I put on another tread, the results of my researches about parts numbers.

Davy
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Re: Way too high fuel consumption: the sequel ++ parts inquiry?

Post by lost2 »

Thanks Jfarsang for this quick answer!
jfarsang wrote:
lost2 wrote:My first question: everytime we look for a part related to the engine 4D56T / 2.5l, we narrow it to the 83-84 Dodge Ram 50 (I believe it has a engine called 4D55), but they have no 2.5 , only a 2.3 l. Will the parts for this engine fit the 2.5l (belts, tensioners, valve cover gasket, etc.)? Listings also say there is a 2.3 l Diesel (4D55) on the Ford Ranger 1987... Engine block is the same but the heads are different, so head components/valve cover/etc... will not match with the 4D56T I understand the belt kit will work using the 4D55 engine , but what should I look for to replace the valve gasket? Is there any north american equivalence?

Is there any Montero, Vanwagon or other model, using brake parts corresponding to a 1990 Mitsubishi Delica 4WD ? I gathered some numbers out of the 'canadian part list' (ex.:Arnley Calipers 077-10595), but they have no equivalence at Carquest and Uniselect (USI Parts). It is much easier to strat a research with a north-american listed vehicule model. L300 equivalent application : 1988 Mitsubishi Montero 4cyl or V6 for brake rotors/calipers/pads Again, this is clear and sound about front brake/pads/calipers, but is it that same for the rear brake shoes and drums ? A previous tread on this forum suggests the contrary:
http://www.delica.ca/forum/brake-shoes- ... -9256.html
I also wonder if the front upper ball joint and the tie rod are related to the 1988 Mitsubishi Montero 4cyl or V6, or is there another vehicule model to look for concerning these components of the suspension system?


Third question: same as above, but concerning the muffler. Mine is 15½ inches long (let's say 19" with the shields), a side to side in-out design, with a approximative 1 7/8" diameter muffler tubing. I would rather buy a new one with the proper spec, but I dont mind modifying a bit as long as a have the proper ratio of air passing throught it... if you're getting a new muffler/exhaust , you may as well upgrade to a 2 1/4" exhaust for more power/lower EGT/better breathing Shouldn't I than change the whole exhaust system doing so ? Starting from the manifold and so on, or is just changing the muffler a good way to improve breathing? And can someone points me to a muffler part number and/or model that would work on the L300 ?
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Post by Manitoba deli »

I would check with Paul at Pacific JDM parts. I'm not sure about the muffler, but I think he would probably have all the parts in stock, and I have found that even with shipping to Manitoba his parts are more economical than any of the auto parts supliers in my area.

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I second this 'Paul at Pacific JDM parts'
He's great to deal with, quick and very inexpensive compared
to some of the local stuff I was finding.

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Re: Way too high fuel consumption: the sequel ++ parts inquiry?

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lost2 wrote:Thanks Jfarsang for this quick answer!
jfarsang wrote:
lost2 wrote:My first question: everytime we look for a part related to the engine 4D56T / 2.5l, we narrow it to the 83-84 Dodge Ram 50 (I believe it has a engine called 4D55), but they have no 2.5 , only a 2.3 l. Will the parts for this engine fit the 2.5l (belts, tensioners, valve cover gasket, etc.)? Listings also say there is a 2.3 l Diesel (4D55) on the Ford Ranger 1987... Engine block is the same but the heads are different, so head components/valve cover/etc... will not match with the 4D56T I understand the belt kit will work using the 4D55 engine , but what should I look for to replace the valve gasket? Is there any north american equivalence?The tie rod inner moog ev455 fits many ford and mercury vehicles ie 2003-2006 Mercury Grand Marquis

Is there any Montero, Vanwagon or other model, using brake parts corresponding to a 1990 Mitsubishi Delica 4WD ? I gathered some numbers out of the 'canadian part list' (ex.:Arnley Calipers 077-10595), but they have no equivalence at Carquest and Uniselect (USI Parts). It is much easier to strat a research with a north-american listed vehicule model. L300 equivalent application : 1988 Mitsubishi Montero 4cyl or V6 for brake rotors/calipers/pads Again, this is clear and sound about front brake/pads/calipers, but is it that same for the rear brake shoes and drums ? A previous tread on this forum suggests the contrary:
http://www.delica.ca/forum/brake-shoes- ... -9256.html
I also wonder if the front upper ball joint and the tie rod are related to the 1988 Mitsubishi Montero 4cyl or V6, or is there another vehicule model to look for concerning these components of the suspension system?


Third question: same as above, but concerning the muffler. Mine is 15½ inches long (let's say 19" with the shields), a side to side in-out design, with a approximative 1 7/8" diameter muffler tubing. I would rather buy a new one with the proper spec, but I dont mind modifying a bit as long as a have the proper ratio of air passing throught it... if you're getting a new muffler/exhaust , you may as well upgrade to a 2 1/4" exhaust for more power/lower EGT/better breathing Shouldn't I than change the whole exhaust system doing so ? Starting from the manifold and so on, or is just changing the muffler a good way to improve breathing? And can someone points me to a muffler part number and/or model that would work on the L300 ?
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Post by TardisDeli »

Hi Lost2, beware you do not try to get local north american equivilent engine parts unless someone else on here has vouched for them working on our L300's, too often I have seen problems with people who got montero parts etc, but the threads were slightly off (oil leaks) or the belt not exact size (can cause alternator and battery and glow plugs to fail). There are various local parts for non engine parts which don't need such accurate tolerances such as for brakes and shocks etc which work fine. Another parts resource is Graham at CC Autos, or John at RockyMountainImports.net who mail everywhere and supplies direct to owners and to many of the repair garages (see websites for great info and photos).

Also, fuel mileage often is badly affected when air filter dirty. Take it off for a minute, and see if engine sounds better. Its a quick fix for many L300's.

Cheers, Christine.
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