E-coded lights / different versions

[jessef]

Hi guys,

I'm shopping around for e-coded lights.

I've come across 3 different versions so far. E13 / E4 / E10 .

Which to get ?

Also, I've seen these floating on ebay . Anyone on here ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsubis ... 0240191558

"Also these lights have the third port for a DRL bulb."

Thanks
Jesse

[Green1]

E13 and E4 are generally OK (though technically the number is irrelevant, the arrows on the lens are what matter)
from memory I can't think of where E10 would be, so I won't speculate on what they would be.

as for the "DRL Port" it's not really for DRL, it's what's called a "City light" for europe, some people have wired it as DRL, but I don't know that it actually puts out enough light to qualify.

[MardyDelica]

hi, David is right, its a city light & its not DRL light it ownt pass as its not enough light to pass inspection.
some people say its for DRL but its not. they used this as city light in europe like benz.
but for compliance my inspector say it wont pass.
i dont see any E10 probably the other design without projector for a newer model.
Depo with e4 is the better one as the lense is much brighter when it lights at night
cheers;

[delicat]

I first had E13 on my bus but changed it right away for a set of E4 from Mardy. I was quite surprised how much of a difference there were between the two lights, the E13 were quite poor compared to the E4.

Now to make my lights even better I just bought a set of HID (High Intensity Discharge) H3 bulbs and ballast. I'll try to find time to install them this weekend. The difference should be WOW!

[MardyDelica]

Hi, David,
thats a nice HID, hope this will be good.
if good i will try it to my delica. pls let me know later ,
Cheers;
Mardy

[JMK]

It's unfortunate that the city light module uses a 10mm 194 style wedge socket, which makes it hard to find a bright bulb. I did use it however as a post-inspection modification because I don't want the extra daylight running hours burning out my H3 bulbs prematurely. I'm going to try a WLED Series bulb that puts out 54000 mcd's. Anyone know what the legal requirement for bulb intensity for DRL's is?

Also, can anyone confirm how many and which kind of dash and instrument lights the Deli uses? I've heard 3 T10's and 20 T5's.

[after oil]

old post i know, but anyhow...

i wired the "city light" as a DRL with the weak bulb. noel at enviro told me it was for drl when i bought the depo e's from him. passed inspection in coombs. glen said he'd never seen 'em wired that way. i hope nobody tells his inspector they aint bright enough.

anybody got a number for a brighter bulb that will fit that socket?

[JMK]

I don't think the City Light was intended to be a DRL in Europe from what I'm told. I was told it was for use in big cities where the roads are so well lit they use a 'city light' so as not to blind oncoming traffic. In my opinion it affords a perfect opportunity to set up a DRL, so that is what I did, and I've seen others that have also done that on a number of imorted Euro cars and JDM's.

That socket on mine was a 10mm 194 wedge socket. I went with the brightest bulb I could get for that, there's a pic of it in another post about LED's. You are limited in how bright you can go for that type of bulb however.

I suppose you could modify that socket to take another brighter bulb such as an 1156 or something. If you want to go pretty bright you'd probably have to do that.

[dfnder]

I first had E13 on my bus but changed it right away for a set of E4 from Mardy. I was quite surprised how much of a difference there were between the two lights, the E13 were quite poor compared to the E4.

Now to make my lights even better I just bought a set of HID (High Intensity Discharge) H3 bulbs and ballast. I'll try to find time to install them this weekend. The difference should be WOW!

Hey Delicat where did you get this unit, looks like an upgrade I would like to get. I am curious about the amount of extra power it draws and approx price if you don't mind saying.

[JMK]

Come to think of it Delicat never did get back to us with a review on how this conversion went now that presumably he's using them. Delicat, I'm guessing you probably posted a review on a new thread?

There is a good overview on Ecode headlights and HID conversion considerations here.

[delicat]

Check this post:
http://www.delica.ca/forum/hid-headligh ... =headlight

I really like the brightness of these lights but the driver's side sometimes doesn't light up so I have to turn off the van and try again. I can go weeks without problems followed by some frustrating days of not getting the driver's side going right away.

I think it's 'cause the driver's side is very shallow and not much room for the back of the bulb (wirings get crushed a bit). Never had a problem with the passenger's side. I've talked to others who also have HID and same thing.

Hope this help! You can also check Craigslist for low profile ballast, not sure if mine were low profile or not but didn't have any space issue with the ballast part.

David

[JMK]

Thanks David,

Sorry, now I remember that post.

There's 2 things that I need to do before being in any position to comment further on what you brought up. I need to get the whiter bulb as for some reason I got the bluish ones that I really don't like (should receive in a week). Then I need to properly adjust the headlight beam as I recently cranked my torsion bars (but no one has been blinded yet as I haven't been doing much night driving, blame a busy schedule).

But I appreciate this info JMK, I'm in no point the type the type that will push a product just 'cause I installed it... If it doesn't turn out good I'll be the first one to let everyone else know. That's the best thing about this forum isn't it?

So did you end up getting whiter bulbs? Also is it a given you need to do a realignment if you crank your torsion bars?

BTW, Our supplier told me that his price on the H3 Goldeneye Xenon Kits are FOB Vancouver at $130.00. H4 would be another $130.00. They are available in 3000, 4300, 6000, 8000, 10000, and 12000 K for the H3, the H4 does not have 3000K.

[delicat]

Yes, got whiter bulb and if you crank your torsion bars you might be able to get away with not re-adjusting your headlights but if you re-index them and crank them up then it's a must.

[JMK]

Thanks for that,

Ooops, I meant doing a steering alignment to the tune of $120.00 or so.