Single -> Dual Piston brake upgrade + auto -> Manual hubs

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Re: Single -> Dual Piston brake upgrade + auto -> Manual hubs

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I was going to change my pads the other day, and I noticed that all the bolts holding the calipers were slightly rounded. The 14mm wrench I had slipped, so I stopped trying as to not round it more. Is it an imperial size for the brakes or something? Or has the previous owner fubared my bolts?

My rears desperately need changing. Anyone know of any tricks to help me out? Or wanna help me do it? Beer can be a helluva good incentive!
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Re: Single -> Dual Piston brake upgrade + auto -> Manual hubs

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Spray rust penetrating fluid on them at the head/thread area a few times over a day period.

Drive it to a shop and have them crank the bolts out.

Usually they are in there very tight/need to be gunned off.

Monster vice grips may work depending on how rounded the heads are.

If it was like that already, then the last person that tightened them probably did it with an open ended wrench.


Always use closed end of a wrench or hex socket. Open end of the wrench or multipoint socket can round off the edges easily.
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Re: Single -> Dual Piston brake upgrade + auto -> Manual hubs

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I've sprayed them with penetrating fluid a couple times to make it easier, but obviously not enough!
Thanks for the tip, I'll pick up a better quality socket and try again. I've havent changed pads on anything other than a Golf and a Civic, so Im just confirming that it should be those two (or three) bolts per caliper that come off, and then I can pop the pads out, swap, and then re-install?
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Try to get your hands on some tools like these: http://www.metrinch.tv/
They will do the trick.
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Besides the superwhinch, is there anything else worth doing while everything is exposed?
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check your CV boots. If they are not pliable or have cracks in them when you squeeze on it, then replace them. Axle shaft has to come out.

after you've removed all the old grease, clean it with brakeclean or similar and then feel the bearings for flat/rough spots. If there are, then replace the bearings.

Both bearings inner/outer are identical. They are also sold locally and the same as a Gen 1 Montero.
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I will be attempting this soon. My rotors have been gauged and the pads are rubbing.

Has anyone tried other brands than Raybestos? I'm comparing prices with Rockauto, but surprisingly, it looks like summitracing is less expensive (then again, there are so many options I'm not sure if I'm looking at the right thing). Did anyone just go to Lordco to buy theirs? If so, what did you end up paying?
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Well, I found the search function on Rockauto! :-D
Their prices seem to be the best, as can be seen in the picture. Yes, you have to pay shipping, but it still costs less than Summitracing.

Everything will arrive in 2-6 days to TSB shipping in Point Roberts where I will pay a small fee to pick them up.

The total came to $244.96
subtract core charges: $10.28 x 2
subtract rebates: $15 (brake pads) $5 x 2 (rotors)

Total: $199.40 + return shipping, postage and TSB

I'll attempt to do this myself and hopefully don't run into the same trouble I had last time I tried to remove my calipers.
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Re: Single -> Dual Piston brake upgrade + auto -> Manual hub

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The job is done. It turns out that the original brake line fittings don't work with the new calipers. I had to get a brake expert to build me some new fittings and he modified the brackets to work. Total cost was $150, so factor that into your upgrade price, even if you do it yourself. I also licked out in only being a couple blocks from the mechanics, so I could drive there without brakes.
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(thread resurrection :? :-D )

I wish the images for this mod was still available. my brakes are overdue.
I'm just starting to gather parts for this mod.

since the back plate shield needs to be cut to fit, I was curious to know if the plate off the Montero or L400 would fit instead of cutting the old one?
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almac wrote:(thread resurrection :? :-D )

I wish the images for this mod was still available. my brakes are overdue.
I'm just starting to gather parts for this mod.

since the back plate shield needs to be cut to fit, I was curious to know if the plate off the Montero or L400 would fit instead of cutting the old one?
I'm not sure about that, but cutting was the easiest part of the process - 10 seconds with some tin snips.
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Re: Single -> Dual Piston brake upgrade + auto -> Manual hub

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i'm planning on getting all the parts together first before I take things apart.
what I need is a pair of shields already cut or an extra set I can cut down myself.

anyone know where I can get a set of shields in the Kelowna area? :?
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Re: Single -> Dual Piston brake upgrade + auto -> Manual hub

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nxski wrote: ...cutting was the easiest part of the process - 10 seconds with some tin snips.
Almac,
Why bother getting another set of shields? Easy peasy... cut the ones you have in mere seconds.

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josh wrote:
nxski wrote: ...cutting was the easiest part of the process - 10 seconds with some tin snips.
Almac,
Why bother getting another set of shields? Easy peasy... cut the ones you have in mere seconds.

Josh.
I just wanted to cut the new set, sandblast and paint it up nice. :?
no big deal, I just want to spend a bit more prep time so I don't have to be concerned about rust later on. :-)
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Re: Single -> Dual Piston brake upgrade + auto -> Manual hub

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That totally makes sense to me :)

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