I'd like to sort out some proper 3-point seatbelts for my captain chairs as my van doesn't have any.
Can anyone suggest where I should try and source them?
thanks
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Breadman
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they seem to be on all non chamonix post mid 91 models as far as i can tell. i bought the ones from bruce who is bringing them over with him. maybe contact icbc and see if any delicas have been damaged and put up for salvage. the guys at express trailer have one for parts, i had real trouble getting an answer about the passenger door from them and in the end i have decided to have the door fixed at a body shop. maybe you will have better luck with them.
paul
paul
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Breadman
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there are a couple of things to look at. all the panels in the back have to be changed or cut as the shoulder belts have a molded plastic mounting system. one thing a guy from the uk web site showed me was something like a racing harness that he had fitted into his. i'm sure a 4x4 supply shop would carry a 5 point harness system that would work with the captain seats. that was my next option if bruce hadn't showed up.
paul
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delicanuck
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Is this for a baby seat?
Hi Gang,
I have a youngster who still rides in a car seat. I figure he'll grow out of that thing before I have time to undertake any major projects like installing 3 point seatbelts... so instead... I went and got an off-the-shelf seatbelt kit, took the tang end off its strap and threaded it onto the bay end strap, threaded this through the car seat and buckled it down tight behind the pedestal. This holds the seat tightly in place and the hook strap at the top holds the seat from pitching forward. Plus I thread the original lap belt through the car seat as well so that it conforms to safety regs. Theoretically, if my add-on strap ever broke, the stock strap's accelerometer would kick in and lock. In that case though, I suspect the captains chair would have ripped loose of its track and would be sailing towards the windshield.
Anyways, it doesn't look bad. Its easy to do. It's probably roughly twice as strong as its supposed to be, it will probably do its job better than a 3 point and really, three point accelerometer belts were made for grown-ups and never did work well with car seats.
Works well for me, and the little burk.
I have a youngster who still rides in a car seat. I figure he'll grow out of that thing before I have time to undertake any major projects like installing 3 point seatbelts... so instead... I went and got an off-the-shelf seatbelt kit, took the tang end off its strap and threaded it onto the bay end strap, threaded this through the car seat and buckled it down tight behind the pedestal. This holds the seat tightly in place and the hook strap at the top holds the seat from pitching forward. Plus I thread the original lap belt through the car seat as well so that it conforms to safety regs. Theoretically, if my add-on strap ever broke, the stock strap's accelerometer would kick in and lock. In that case though, I suspect the captains chair would have ripped loose of its track and would be sailing towards the windshield.
Anyways, it doesn't look bad. Its easy to do. It's probably roughly twice as strong as its supposed to be, it will probably do its job better than a 3 point and really, three point accelerometer belts were made for grown-ups and never did work well with car seats.
Works well for me, and the little burk.
Brett,
89 Exceed,
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89 Exceed,
There are really only 10 kinds of people in the world;
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I've got 3 kids in car seats, 2 in booster seats and one still in the 5-point harness with the rear anchor. I haven't got a chance to test drive a Delica yet, that's the plan for the weekend. Does the 7-seater version not have shoulder straps for the mid row captain's chairs? Would the chamonix 8-seater be the better option? Or should I just strap them all in the 3rd row? I guess even in back there are only 2 shoulder straps.......
This will be a major draw back for my wife, she's always saying we have to look out for the well being of the kids, whereas I'm like, 'but Honey, the Delica is so cool, we'll just leave one kid at home every time we go out.'
This will be a major draw back for my wife, she's always saying we have to look out for the well being of the kids, whereas I'm like, 'but Honey, the Delica is so cool, we'll just leave one kid at home every time we go out.'
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delicanuck
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My booster seat has an integral 5 point harness
Hi Adam,
I still think that the inertial actuator is a potential hazard for passengers under 65 lbs. The system was designed for grownups and then compromises were made after the fact to try and keep children from flying around inside the car. For my money, a manual lap belt and well implemented tether strap will work better in a crash. Of course an insurance guy would have to agree with whatever his lawyer says is the party line so I also do up the inertial lap belt, for legal reasons. Besides, I'm no authority on crashes. I think though, that we're bound to do what makes sense for our kids. Stick a car seat into a new car and do up the three point harness and tether strap and just try shoving the seat around. Does that seem safe to you.
BTW, Don't say what I said to my wife; "Yeah Honey but Delicas might not be around for ever and the kids, well, plenty more where they came from." Did I mention that the Delica is pretty nice to sleep in?
Gee I feel a project coming on. I should be able to test this theory. I have some lumber and ropes and stuff. I even have some trees close enough together to swing a child from one tree and have it crash into the other tree. Acceleration is easy to figure out. Hmm... need a factor for surface resiliency. High speed camera or strain gauge diodes? ... Which child is going to volunteer?
I still think that the inertial actuator is a potential hazard for passengers under 65 lbs. The system was designed for grownups and then compromises were made after the fact to try and keep children from flying around inside the car. For my money, a manual lap belt and well implemented tether strap will work better in a crash. Of course an insurance guy would have to agree with whatever his lawyer says is the party line so I also do up the inertial lap belt, for legal reasons. Besides, I'm no authority on crashes. I think though, that we're bound to do what makes sense for our kids. Stick a car seat into a new car and do up the three point harness and tether strap and just try shoving the seat around. Does that seem safe to you.
BTW, Don't say what I said to my wife; "Yeah Honey but Delicas might not be around for ever and the kids, well, plenty more where they came from." Did I mention that the Delica is pretty nice to sleep in?
Gee I feel a project coming on. I should be able to test this theory. I have some lumber and ropes and stuff. I even have some trees close enough together to swing a child from one tree and have it crash into the other tree. Acceleration is easy to figure out. Hmm... need a factor for surface resiliency. High speed camera or strain gauge diodes? ... Which child is going to volunteer?
Brett,
89 Exceed,
There are really only 10 kinds of people in the world;
Those who understand binary and those who don't.
89 Exceed,
There are really only 10 kinds of people in the world;
Those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Kuan
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Not all Delicas have 3-point seatbelts in the back. Not sure if it was an option or if at some point they started putting them in.
Mine doesn't have them but I have found and ordered them and will be installing them soon. Both the Captains and the back seat has them.
I peeked behind the plastic molding on the post by the sliding door and there is a hole in the frame for mounting.
Mine doesn't have them but I have found and ordered them and will be installing them soon. Both the Captains and the back seat has them.
I peeked behind the plastic molding on the post by the sliding door and there is a hole in the frame for mounting.
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Kuan
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Not all Delicas have 3-point seatbelts in the back. Not sure if it was an option or if at some point they started putting them in.
Mine doesn't have them but I have found and ordered them and will be installing them soon. Both the Captains and the back seat has them.
I peeked behind the plastic molding on the post by the sliding door and there is a hole in the frame for mounting.
Mine doesn't have them but I have found and ordered them and will be installing them soon. Both the Captains and the back seat has them.
I peeked behind the plastic molding on the post by the sliding door and there is a hole in the frame for mounting.
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moved bench seat belt to captain seat
FYI
Not sure if this was done or suggested yet, but I removed one of the rear bench seat belts and bolted it to one of the captain chairs in place of the stock inertia unit. I now have the centre rear position for baby seat, and one captain chair for my 9 year-old. This will get me by for a little while till I suss out whether a ratchet type will fit in place of stock interia unit. I figure it's unlikely I"ll be needing seven belts at one time so I'm ok will one less on the rear bench.
The swap was simple and took only a few minutes. The seat moulding all remounts as per stock. There is a locating pin in the tang bracket which doesn't line up with the seat mount, hence the bracket doesn't fit as well as it could or should. I don't think it's a safety issue, as long as it doesn't come loose, and if I decide that this is going to be the permanent set-up I'll have a new bracket made or modified with the correct pin arrangement.
--Todd
Not sure if this was done or suggested yet, but I removed one of the rear bench seat belts and bolted it to one of the captain chairs in place of the stock inertia unit. I now have the centre rear position for baby seat, and one captain chair for my 9 year-old. This will get me by for a little while till I suss out whether a ratchet type will fit in place of stock interia unit. I figure it's unlikely I"ll be needing seven belts at one time so I'm ok will one less on the rear bench.
The swap was simple and took only a few minutes. The seat moulding all remounts as per stock. There is a locating pin in the tang bracket which doesn't line up with the seat mount, hence the bracket doesn't fit as well as it could or should. I don't think it's a safety issue, as long as it doesn't come loose, and if I decide that this is going to be the permanent set-up I'll have a new bracket made or modified with the correct pin arrangement.
--Todd