Filtering WVO to 5 microns

[EricN]

The redline one is a furnace motor. I bought the pump for $75 and scrounged up a free motor, mated the 2 together. Redlines coupler fits exactly on the furnace motor.

[Kuan]

Some guys in the COOP have a big WWII era centrifuge going now and its serves well to polish up the biodiesel before it goes out. However, that would mean I would have to truck my bio over there to finish. We don't have a centralized production location (yet), so we are about 6-7 producers supply the coop (buyers) of around 100 members.

The centrifuge that I was looking at is the Filterfuge. (http://www.dieselproducts.com/spinclean ... n_why.html) Its cheaper than the dieselcraft and supposed to be just as good. The centrifuge also has the benefit of removing water from your wvo.

Anway, I'm just going to go for a cheaper option to start. I'm trying to go to a washless biodiesel system to save water. Settling works but it takes longer.

Thanks for the info.

[Adam]

I'm interested in the dieselcraft or spinclean centrifuge option as well. I think the expensive part is getting a pump that will work with these units. I was quote over $500 for a pump to run a dieselcraft, not in my price range.

[EricN]

Ok Adam you have me interested now. How much does the centrifuge run $$$$$? How well does it separate the water? And what is the deal with the pump? I am thinking of an old dodge engine oil pump run by a starter motor as in my quick and dirty read there, that is all they use (normal oil pressure).
sorry, being lazy and not doing any research.

[Kuan]

I think the centrifuge runs around $300. If you guys can figure out a cheap pump/motor solution, I might be into getting one. It would be pretty neat to have. It separates water pretty well I think. There is a thread on it somewhere...(on a different site) but the guy used a 55 gallon barrel and heated the oil as it went in and ran it for some hours recirculating it and had good results.

If you google dieselcraft and wvo you should be able to find it. The splin clean filterfuge is in canada though and is cheaper which is the option I would pick I think. (I think its made in the UK) Perhaps if we buy a couple we could get a discount or at least save on shipping.

[delicat]

Here's the links:

http://www.dieselcraft.com/oilentry_wvo.html

http://www.simplecentrifuge.com/index.html

Dieselcraft sells for $300 for the OC-20 which flows 55 gallon/hr or $500 for the OC-50 which flows 108 gallons/hr.
It's the pump at $550 that is hard to swallow... EricN's idea might be a cheap viable alternative.

[EricN]

Pressure is a bit high for an engine oil pump to enjoy life. I dont see any pics, but judging by the description, it is a furnace blower motor with a hydraulic pump.

[loki]

there is a very suitable pump for $350ish I'll try and find the link later. I have also seen someone use a power steering pump off a 84 Mitsubishi montero, hooked to an old 1725rpm 3/4 hp motor.

I'm going to go with this pump part #4272K31 or find something similar locally through my dad's company.

With the setup I'm going to run I will be able to filter to 5 microns and dewater a 55 gallon drum in 3-4 hours. just need to lock in a supply (read need to get off my ass and go get a supply :)) should be able to get a mobile setup going possibly built into the van

[Kuan]

should be able to get a mobile setup going possibly built into the van

Your going to drive around with an open 55 gallon barrel and centrifuge going in the back of your van?

[loki]

should be able to get a mobile setup going possibly built into the van

Your going to drive around with an open 55 gallon barrel and centrifuge going in the back of your van?

nope, if I build it right in it will be a tank mounted where the spare is now and a vent pipe to the roof or something along those lines. Never mentioned that it would be open. It will need to be vented though for the water that is flash boiled to get out but the centrifuge will pull most of the water out by it's self anyways so I might not heat it to that level, I will be tweaking the setup once I get all the pieces and start testing it out for myself.

[Adam]

Ok Adam you have me interested now. How much does the centrifuge run $$$$$? How well does it separate the water? And what is the deal with the pump? I am thinking of an old dodge engine oil pump run by a starter motor as in my quick and dirty read there, that is all they use (normal oil pressure).
sorry, being lazy and not doing any research.

I know the lazy feeling, trust me, it took me 3 days to find the time to respond to your post I`m Vancouver for the weekend visiting the folks/in-laws and Princess Auto

Here`s a good post showing a dieselcraft at work. From what I can tell the spinclean are the exact same design, but a bit cheaper, I think around $230. This is the guy that used the power steering pump off a 84 Mitsubishi montero, hooked to an old 1725rpm 3/4 hp motor.

SteepCreek just bought a SpinClean centrifuge and he is planning a similar set up. He hasn`t got the pump yet, I think he`s planning on salvaging something cheap.

[GREENME@U]

i think u can use a power steering pump off any old car but you what your rpm's the same not to high.I like Golden fuel system's one shot filter. Hey Sean is it easy to get WVO here I live in Courtenay To ive seen your van and lots of others! i just moved back here from the Kooteney's get back to me O and heres my van you will c it around!

[sean]

Hey Green,
Welcome back. I have never seen a Delica that colour before. Looks nice.
WVO is available. There are still restaurants that do not have any agreements with anyone. We are having our first Courtenay Coop meeting this Wed. We are keeping the numbers small for the first until we decide how to proceed. Don't want to high jack this thread so check out the http://www.delica.ca/forum/courtenay-wv ... -2294.html Post for info in the coming weeks.

As for the CF discussion, I am taking this info to the COop meeting. With the savings on filters and difference in quality of oils that will most likely be donated, I think this is a very viable option. Piece of mind for many of us that really want clean, waterless oil.
Sean

[jessef]

should be able to get a mobile setup going possibly built into the van

Your going to drive around with an open 55 gallon barrel and centrifuge going in the back of your van?

nope, if I build it right in it will be a tank mounted where the spare is now and a vent pipe to the roof or something along those lines. Never mentioned that it would be open. It will need to be vented though for the water that is flash boiled to get out but the centrifuge will pull most of the water out by it's self anyways so I might not heat it to that level, I will be tweaking the setup once I get all the pieces and start testing it out for myself.

Loki,

That's my goal as well.

Using a built in system with mechanical filters (Kevin's idea ) for a year-long excursion down to south america on as much WVO as we can use.

Looking forward to seeing where you guys are heading in this thread.

I have a few weeks to prep before my Deli gets here and source parts for the in-system build.

Jesse