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RichD wrote:

Firesong wrote:I think everyone needs to chill.
I ran a paintball forum back in the day, same things happened.
Problem was, I owned it, paid for it but others wanted it
done differently. It was mine.

It's something about the internet that makes people more likely
to butt heads than if they were all present in person.

It would be different if there was a membership charge. $$$

Respectfully I have to disagree with you buddy. I've been using social communications tools like this one since the mid-80s, long before the web - since I was a child in fact. I've actively participated in countless BBS's, forums, guilds, and they all run on a social contract, one in which the community is the owner of the forum and the host or webmaster provides shelter and support. (and for the record that social contract is not a monetary transaction as you suggest) Whenever the leadership steps up and tries to assert unilateral control the social contract is broken and the community fragments and breaks down. I've seen it many times and its always ugly. That is what is happening here at delica.ca.

You are wrong to assume that this is just keyboard warriors having it out. Factually, we have hashed this out in person as well. For those of us in the Lower Mainland and environs this site is a companion to a real circle of friends and a community that was thriving. What goes on here on delica.ca goes on in emails and phone calls and texts and informal meets every day - not meets in parking lots but actual friends meeting in backyards and shops and enjoying meals and weekend trips together. Delica.ca used to be the hub of our community and we've started replacing that with other fragmented ad hoc medium. Certain people have been completely isolated because of this conflict, people who used to be regular features of our social scene. You can see the tension and the lines drawn between these people in the forum threads.

What you are watching is not a forum that is struggling because of too many differing opinions. That is a very shallow summation of what is going on. What you are watching is a community in the throes of falling apart. Like a family losing its home, this is not a pretty site.

jfarsang wrote:you're the only hightop !

jfarsang wrote:

jfarsang wrote:you're the only hightop !

echo this again just to let it sink in

Arguably the most unique Delica (and one of the first to be imported into Canada) and it's creator is leaving this site.

Frustration has limits and David reached his.

On a positive note.

Can't wait for spring-trails with the delica people including David

Super Exceeded wrote:It's funny and kind of sad to read the goings on here. I run a forum with almost 9000 members and there is none of this banter there. The reason is easy. I have made it very clear that everone is allowed an opinion, but as soon as someone gets personal, they're gone. In the 8 years that I've run it, I've only had trouble with two people.

To the moderstors, please remeber this 'vehicle' has many wheels, and don't let the squeeky one get all the grease. The other wheels won't (normally) complain, they'll just 'fall off'' one at a time. You're lucky enough to have someone like DJJACK complain, at least you know why he's gone. Most just quitely go away and you're just left wondering why.

But thats just me speaking my mind.

Arnold

snelson wrote:"Please just DELETE the problem person. Your lives as moderators will be some much easier - even if you feel like the wrong side has won the battle."
I could not agree more!!!

I've been using the "Ignore" functionality on a particular Rising member for the past few months now - however when we start losing key contributing members for the sake of one member that I and others Ignore, then just do us all a favour and DELETE the problem person.

Green1 wrote:This corner of the Last Word Café is about: "What Shall We Do About Green1?"

This is not the friendly community it once was, when I started on here everyone was friendly and statements were taken based on the evidence posted within, now "I've been working on diesel engines for __ years" carries more weight on engine operations than mountains of printed material, tons of anecdotal evidence, common sense, and the laws of physics. "because I said so" carries more weight of points of law than government forms, fact sheets and laws. And I've learned that the posted rules of this site only apply to those who must abide by them, and not to those who write them.

I leave it to the "community" to decide.