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Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:15 pm
by mriguy
silly question, but has anyone run furnace fuel in their delica? I know they're pretty much the same thing...but not quite...anyways, to make a long story short, i forgot to cancel my automatic fuel delivery, and just before my 600+ litre furnace fuel tank was being removed and replaced with natural gas....well you get the picture...and of course the fuel company won't take it back...so i now have 600 litres of clean furnace fuel in 200 litre barrels in my back yard, and i'm trying to figure out how to use it or get rid of it...

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:26 pm
by Green1
your best bet would be to sell it to a neighbour who still uses home heating oil...

I'm not entirely sure, but isn't heating oil dyed? I think it's illegal to use in a vehicle because of the lack of road tax paid on it... but I'm not 100% on this.

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:33 pm
by bikepoor
Um yeah, DON'T!!!!
If standards in BC are the same as Alberta, lilke Green1 said it's an undyed, untreated fuel. That translates to it was never really meant to be burnt within city limits, and from what I have been told stinks and smokes like burning garbage, just so you and I won't try and slide the odd tankfull in here and there. Plus because of the low grade standards, it isn't really meant to be burnt in closed exhaust systems because of the high carbon output. Translated; high efficiency diesel engines such as those in our Delicas don't digest it too well.

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:38 pm
by after oil
Green1 wrote:your best bet would be to sell it to a neighbour who still uses home heating oil...

I'm not entirely sure, but isn't heating oil dyed? I think it's illegal to use in a vehicle because of the lack of road tax paid on it... but I'm not 100% on this.
i have never heard of anybody getting their tank dipped to check if the fuel is dyed. i know there are plenty of people who use up old heater oil in their diesel motors. diesel automotive fuel has lubricants in it. one could use a fuel additive, or WVO to provide the lubrication. one should draw the heating oil off the top of the tank if possible, or check what comes out the tap at the bottom for H20 and contaminants.

ill bet you could sell it on craigslist, itll go fast. and maybe whoever buys it is gonna run it in their truck

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:32 pm
by Manitoba deli
In Manitoba, it is the same as diesel fuel, or #2 fuel oil. Only as others have stated it is dyed, because the road taxes have not been paid on it. Our farm fuel is the same, only dyed a different color, and can only legaly be used in farm trucks or tractors. Dyed fuel will work fine in your Delica, In manitoba, we often have roadside fuel checks to see if people are using colored fuel. The fines here are rather steep, about $600. But if people are OK with using WVO and not voulintarily submitting the road taxes, a little heating fuel should be alright as long as you are aware of the possible fines.
Jason

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:47 pm
by mriguy
yeah, i used to dye gas purple with a nasty red dye when i worked at a petro-can bulk plant, even ''forgot'' to add it on occasion if the guy buying it wasn't a donkey...but the stuff i have in the back yard is definitely not purple...i think i'll list it on craigslist and see what happens.

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:58 pm
by mararmeisto
You could try adding it a bit at a time, say 5 or 10 litres and then filling the tank with regular diesel. Shouldn't be any worse than burning vegetable oil or waste engine oil.

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:03 pm
by BCDelica
Home heating is diesel, but is dirty, has more entrenched water, and grows bacteria which accounts for the smell. It will run just fine, but will plug up your trucks fuel filter fast. I collected substantial quantities over the years from people moving oil tanks, but only because I had the equipment to process WVO. Each oil tank, even the one 5-7 years old tank, had a good quantity of disgusting water in the tanks.

Another option, can you borrow any transfer and filtration setup?

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:02 pm
by mriguy
so, by transfer set-up, you mean a pump, right? i seem to be limited by my siphon...and by filter, you mean one of those 5 micron deals i've heard about? not lucky enough to posess one....boo hoo... if someone doesn't scoop the fuel for cheap off craigslist this weekend, i'd be interested in seeking out someone from the delica community with the tools/expertise to turn this stuff into some sort of useful fuel....

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:28 am
by BCDelica
Talking about something like;

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Not economical for just 600 liters, this Redline set up costs $899. Cool washable filters thou. Maybe someone from the South Island WVO community can help.

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:58 am
by Tom1976
I live in Quebec, my dad has had a Suburban, 6.2 Diesel for decades and he has run on his house fuel for ever.

That fuel delivered to your house burns a little cleaner than diesel at the car pump, it's pinkish in color and will create a bluish smoke at your tail pipe.
Other than that, as far as I know, it should run well. It never affected the GM engine anyway.

CHeers

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:44 am
by after oil
mriguy wrote:so, by transfer set-up, you mean a pump, right? i seem to be limited by my siphon...and by filter, you mean one of those 5 micron deals i've heard about? not lucky enough to posess one....boo hoo... if someone doesn't scoop the fuel for cheap off craigslist this weekend, i'd be interested in seeking out someone from the delica community with the tools/expertise to turn this stuff into some sort of useful fuel....
like i said, the water is at the bottom, if there is any, so its easy enough to check. as well one should draw off the top.

if you had a pump of some sort, you could buy a cheap filter head and fuel/oil filter at any parts store and pump through that

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:51 pm
by almac
Princess Auto has some interesting stuff that might work.
they have filters, lines, and even a 12v pumping system.
looky here: http://www.princessauto.com/vmchk/view- ... uel+filter

as a deli 'researcher', lately i have been delving into the depths of VegOil fuel, and how to filter the stuff. i might 'one day' setup my own VegOil Pumping station. :-D

i REALLY like the 12v transfer system.
http://www.princessauto.com/engines/fue ... uel+filter

a solar panel and 12v battery with it would be grand! :-D

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:01 am
by mriguy
those transfer systems ARE pretty skookum...but for only $800... :shock: definitely a nice to have, and not a 'need' to have, unless of course you're transferring fuel daily/regularly...and could then justify it to the wife...

Re: Furnace fuel in your delica?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:20 pm
by Modsqwad
I ran red stove oil (#2 diesel) in my turbo jetta for years without a problem. Don't forget you already have a pretty skookum filtration
settup in your van with a water sensor. Go for it I have never heard of a passenger vehicle having the tax cops check for red diesel
so stick it to the man! Suerte.
Andy