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How to bypass the 15years rule.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:03 am
by fexlboi
Am I dreaming? If you are a visitor, or on a work permit/student visa in BC you are allowed to import cars without inspection.
Under Section 7(1)(b) of the Motor Vehicle Safety Act, a motor vehicle may be admitted temporarily into Canada without complying with the Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations if it is to be used exclusively by a person entering Canada as a visitor or a person passing through Canada to another country. Persons entering under a work permit or student visa will be considered as visitors for the application of this section of the Act. Any change in the status of the person entering the vehicle may invalidate the use of this section of the Act. The vehicle cannot be sold or otherwise disposed of while in Canada and cannot remain in Canada for a period longer than the time constraints listed on the work permit, student visa or any other Customs documents. Once these time limits are exceeded, the vehicle no longer qualifies for temporary entry under section 7(1)(b) of the Act and must be exported. As the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency also has requirements concerning the importation of vehicles, you may contact them at the address listed below.
http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/safevehi ... /index.htm
Re: How to bypass the 15years rule.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:18 am
by Jaz
So if you registered that certain vehicle in Chermany, imported it over here, drove it around for however long, then you'd be okay? Sweet!
Particularly seeing as the certain one was only a couple of years away from passing over the 15 year rule.
Re: How to bypass the 15years rule.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:00 am
by Delicafan
Notice it says temporarily.... Would 100% have to be re-exported within a certain amount of time.
Re: How to bypass the 15years rule.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:21 am
by fexlboi
Delicafan wrote:Notice it says temporarily.... Would 100% have to be re-exported within a certain amount of time.
Till your visa expires.
Re: How to bypass the 15years rule.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:01 pm
by Delicafan
fexlboi wrote:Delicafan wrote:Notice it says temporarily.... Would 100% have to be re-exported within a certain amount of time.
Till your visa expires.
Bingo, so your not really bypassing the 15 year rule then. I don't understand why so man want to find a way around it anyhow. We're very lucky to have it in place as is. There are some wicked 15 year old and older cars for us to get the priviledge to drive.
Re: How to bypass the 15years rule.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:11 pm
by fexlboi
Delicafan wrote:We're very lucky to have it in place as is.
Are you serious?!! Well maybe this post is then not for you...
I'm a supporter of general inspections, but this 15years rule is just the most stupid thing in car history ever.
Re: How to bypass the 15years rule.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:47 pm
by Delicafan
fexlboi wrote:Delicafan wrote:We're very lucky to have it in place as is.
Are you serious?!! Well maybe this post is then not for you...
I'm a supporter of general inspections, but this 15years rule is just the most stupid thing in car history ever.
Is it more stupid than the USA's 25 year rule ? That's why I say we're lucky to have the chance at 15 years
Re: How to bypass the 15years rule.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:00 pm
by Modsqwad
This is not unusual. As a non resident Canadian I regularly drive my Mexican plated vehicles into Canada as a visitor
with no time limitation being applied to me other than the usual "How long will you be in Canada sir?" Its like immigration,
once you are here all bets are off. They aren't looking for you. I do however get pulled over sometimes by curios cops who need
an explanation of MY rights. The upside is that it blows the Victoria parking Nazi's minds! Viva las Placas Mexicanas!
Andy Wilson
Sayulita Nay.Mx.
Re: How to bypass the 15years rule.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 1:33 pm
by Todd64
If only we could get them here new. :drool:
Re: How to bypass the 15years rule.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:00 pm
by fexlboi
Modsqwad wrote:This is not unusual. As a non resident Canadian I regularly drive my Mexican plated vehicles into Canada as a visitor
with no time limitation being applied to me other than the usual "How long will you be in Canada sir?" Its like immigration,
once you are here all bets are off. They aren't looking for you. I do however get pulled over sometimes by curios cops who need
an explanation of MY rights. The upside is that it blows the Victoria parking Nazi's minds! Viva las Placas Mexicanas!
Andy Wilson
Sayulita Nay.Mx.
If I'm going to import a newer car, I would get it insured in BC for sure. Just to avoid any trouble...
Re: How to bypass the 15years rule.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 2:10 pm
by Modsqwad
fexlboi wrote:Modsqwad wrote:This is not unusual. As a non resident Canadian I regularly drive my Mexican plated vehicles into Canada as a visitor
with no time limitation being applied to me other than the usual "How long will you be in Canada sir?" Its like immigration,
once you are here all bets are off. They aren't looking for you. I do however get pulled over sometimes by curios cops who need
an explanation of MY rights. The upside is that it blows the Victoria parking Nazi's minds! Viva las Placas Mexicanas!
Andy Wilson
Sayulita Nay.Mx.
If I'm going to import a newer car, I would get it insured in BC for sure. Just to avoid any trouble...
Agreed, but the problem is that as a resident Canuck you can't get past customs with it. And if another party brought it in for you it would be impossible to get through the permanent importation process to get plated and insured. I don't think there's any real way
around it than to be a non resident. Lo Siento!
Andy Wilson
Re: How to bypass the 15years rule.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:28 pm
by jessef
Two reasons why not many people take advantage of this :
1. Visa status change. Even if it's an address change and it has to be reissued while inside Canada, the vehicle must be removed from Canada.
2. The vehicle must be insured in the original country. It will not qualify a broker to inure it under a Canadian insurance company.
I went through this very extensively with a friend from Japan about 7 years ago.
He was here on a 2 year working visa and brought over a 98 Mitsu Strada at the time with him. He was not allowed to insure it as a temp resident via ICBC and the hickup came when he moved from UBC dorms to Kits renting a place and his visa specifically stated he needed to advise them of the address change.
Once he did that, they gave him some kind of form to export his Strada in 30 days.
Things may have changed since then, but he was stressed out about the deal and spent a lot of money shipping it back home and having to buy a temp vehicle in the meantime.
Re: How to bypass the 15years rule.
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:05 am
by marsgal42
This is the Canadian equivalent of the provisions that let us drive our Delicas to the U.S., even though they do not qualify for U.S. import.
I've see lots of interesting stuff around with Mexican license plates, and the occasional Europeans (mainly Germans) who have brought their cars with them. They can visit all they like, but they must eventually leave.
Canada signed up for the treaty, in this case, the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic. This is the national legislation to implement the treaty requirements.
A sore point in IVOAC circles is that while Canada signed up for NAFTA, including the provisions on moving cars around the NAFTA countries (i.e. Mexican imports), Canada has not yet passed any legislation to allow this to actually happen.
...laura