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Testing emissions WVO <-> Diesel

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:12 am
by jessef
More test are being published these days regarding WVO.

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Re: Testing emissions WVO <-> Diesel

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:01 pm
by Adam
I was hoping for higher THC emissions, maybe I should try Hemp oil.

Re: Testing emissions WVO <-> Diesel

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:27 pm
by fishslapper
cough cough.........i think there are too many smokey computer rooms in delica owners houses !!! hahahaha.........

Re: Testing emissions WVO <-> Diesel

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:10 am
by BCDelica
Thanks for posting that up Jesse. They always claim that VO, and VO mixes, produce greater amounts of mono nitrogen oxides (NOX) then operating on diesel. May of course depend on the tune of the engine and the type of veggie oil used?

With 0 practical emissions with both diesel and canola, that would appear to be a well tuned little Golf.

Re: Testing emissions WVO <-> Diesel

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:40 am
by jessef
What is still interesting these days is that people believe WVO produces zero emissions and is the healthiest thing to burn.

It's not the most eco-friendly, however it is a better choice compared to pump diesel fuel at the moment.

The graph obviously is stretched out but the numbers below it are there.

Re: Testing emissions WVO <-> Diesel

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:49 pm
by konadog
My understanding is that the carbon released when Veggie oil is burned is carbon that was "in play" and only captured when the plant grew a few years ago, while diesel fuel releases fossil carbon which was locked away, out of play many millions of years ago and that burning it increases the net amount of carbon "in play" now and that that difference is what makes WVO a better choice. I also like that running on WVO is a chance to make use of what is generally considered a waste product :M :-D

Re: Testing emissions WVO <-> Diesel

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:13 pm
by loki
konadog wrote:My understanding is that the carbon released when Veggie oil is burned is carbon that was "in play" and only captured when the plant grew a few years ago, while diesel fuel releases fossil carbon which was locked away, out of play many millions of years ago and that burning it increases the net amount of carbon "in play" now and that that difference is what makes WVO a better choice. I also like that running on WVO is a chance to make use of what is generally considered a waste product :M :-D

Bingo, you have to look at the whole life of the product, not just when it goes into the tank.

Re: Testing emissions WVO <-> Diesel

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:28 pm
by mararmeisto
The usual question from most quarters, though, is how a compression engine compares to spark ignition - i.e. diesel to gasoline. That would be an interesting graphic to see...

Re: Testing emissions WVO <-> Diesel

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:52 pm
by after oil
one thing not considered in the various tests ive seen is "lifecycle emmisions" if you count the emmisions from extraction, refinement, shipping etc of petrol then petrol is much much higher than "V100"
since we are taking something out of the waste stream then i believe that the lifecycle emmisions to get the wvo to the restaurant dont count.

Re: Testing emissions WVO <-> Diesel

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:57 pm
by loki
after oil wrote:since we are taking something out of the waste stream then i believe that the lifecycle emmisions to get the wvo to the restaurant dont count.
pretty much

Re: Testing emissions WVO <-> Diesel

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:05 pm
by mararmeisto
loki wrote:
after oil wrote:since we are taking something out of the waste stream then i believe that the lifecycle emmisions to get the wvo to the restaurant dont count.
pretty much
However, I would count the emissions if the SVO were produced solely for fuel - that's the kind of bio-fuel I don't agree with.

Re: Testing emissions WVO <-> Diesel

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:25 pm
by konadog
since we are taking something out of the waste stream then i believe that the lifecycle emmisions to get the wvo to the restaurant dont count.
Totally agree - in fact, I think WVO burners should get "carbon credits" :wink:
However, I would count the emissions if the SVO were produced solely for fuel - that's the kind of bio-fuel I don't agree with.
Not to mention that oil grown soley for automotive fuel means less stuff grown that could be eaten as human fuel!

Re: Testing emissions WVO <-> Diesel

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:56 pm
by Adrock
konadog wrote: Not to mention that oil grown soley for automotive fuel means less stuff grown that could be eaten as human fuel!
cattle fuel which then becomes human fuel more likely

smokey computer rooms? My computer is in my bedroom.