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Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:00 am
by jessef
And it begins..

The changing of Granola. :M

(thanks for the last minute extended late night lift Gary)

Sorry for the poor quality pics. Cell phones are only so good at night.

Future mods :

Superwinch manual hubs
Relocate A/C & cooler rads in the front
10.5k winch
Solid anchor points front/rear
Fresh water tank
Awning
WVO/extra long distance tank
Steel rear bumper/swing out carrier
Corner to corner roof rack / spot lights all around
Extended breathers / seal electricals
Possible snorkel but not sure
Sliding windows on one side
Small flares
Onboard compressor

Jesse

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Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 12:26 pm
by monstabishi
nice rims Jesse,looks heaps better already when is the next installment ??.


Mick.

Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 1:09 pm
by jessef
monstabishi wrote:nice rims Jesse,looks heaps better already when is the next installment ??.


Mick.
It's going to be an on-going process :mrgreen:

One thing to note since I haven't heard anyone else talking about it at all.

Upgrading tires from 225 - 235 - 30's - 31's

+ You will gain some ground clearance
+ The ride 'can' be softer depending on sidewall construction/psi,etc...
+ The overall RPM will go lower
+ higher combined load rating
+ cool factor for some people

- You will loose top-end speed
- acceleration will drop considerably
** The shift points will be worse (ie. normally when you're doing 110 and it kicks down, now it will kick down at 90)
- Change your gearing/ratio (ie. when in 4x4 L 'low' crawling down a steep grade doing 2 km/h, now you will be doing 6-8 km/h with engine braking)
- Fuel consumption changes (ie. more mass rotation/more weight/rolling resistance) your fuel economy will get worse

Just some points for anyone thinking of going 'bigger' and getting 31" tires or larger.

I can deal with most of the -'s but ** the shifts points are a major annoyance/frustration. I can't stand it when I have to feather the throttle to keep from downshifting and loosing highway speed at the same time. That really sucks. :x

This wasn't an issue running 30x9.5's but is now very apparent with 31x10.5's

You can adjust the shift points only 'so' much and often it can get better on one end of the scale but then worse on the other. Kind of a give and take.

All of this is relative to your gearing and transmission as well as the Delica's come with different gear ratio's (most common 4.875's)

Jesse

Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:36 pm
by Mystery Machine
jfarsang wrote:I can deal with most of the -'s but ** the shifts points are a major annoyance/frustration.
But it all works itself out again by the time you get to 33's (either that or you just don't give a shit anymore and just enjoy the ride/view...)

Looking good there Jesse - so is that the spacers installed? Wheels look sweet...
jfarsang wrote:All of this is relative to your gearing and transmission as well as the Delica's come with different gear ratio's (most common 4.875's)
Just for info - all 2.5TD L300's come with the 4.875 diffs. It's only the petrol and other variants that have different ratios......so most of you on this site will have the 4.875.

Nice work there - glad you got it sorted... 8-)

Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:08 pm
by jessef
Mystery Machine wrote:
jfarsang wrote:I can deal with most of the -'s but ** the shifts points are a major annoyance/frustration.
But it all works itself out again by the time you get to 33's (either that or you just don't give a shit anymore and just enjoy the ride/view...)
:mrgreen:

Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:28 am
by Mystery Machine
I'm gonna see if I can squeeze these puppies onto the new Mud Monkey without having to lift it too much!

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Might mean a few hot dates with my grinder though??

Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:13 am
by jessef
Mystery Machine wrote:I'm gonna see if I can squeeze these puppies onto the new Mud Monkey without having to lift it too much!

Might mean a few hot dates with my grinder though??
33's from a landcruiser ? Looks like the same offset.

Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:40 am
by docsavage
33's form a Land Cruiser work. Those are the 33 x 9.5's that I had on for a day that fit great. Not many manufacturers make that size so I am going with 235 85 r 16. Less cutting and issues with skinny tires.

James

Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:52 am
by jessef
docsavage wrote:33's form a Land Cruiser work. Those are the 33 x 9.5's that I had on for a day that fit great. Not many manufacturers make that size so I am going with 235 85 r 16. Less cutting and issues with skinny tires.

James
I hear you. I scraped this morning. Need to take the BFH and do some more *cough* modifying.

Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:59 pm
by patty
are you running 31 or 33 jesse?

Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:34 am
by delicat
Just for the fun of it I've attached a chart showing the difference between some tires mentioned on this post as well as some other options... Here it is:
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David

Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:07 pm
by jessef
patty wrote:are you running 31 or 33 jesse?
31's and they are ProComp AllTerrain's.

David, the chart is a good comparison but the only thing it leaves out is the difference in 'actual' diameter between all terrain's/all season's/mud tires. You can actually have almost 3/4 " difference in diameter between the three.

Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:42 am
by jessef
Superwinch Manual hubs - on
Nice foldout awning - on

Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:05 pm
by snelson
Awww man....that awning is wicked. I gotsta find me one of those.
Where did you pick that one up?
Very jealous!

Re: Expedition Delica pt1

Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:56 pm
by after oil
could you show some detail please on how the awning attaches?