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ATF Fluid Type

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:38 pm
by stever1000
I've done some searching regarding the ATF fluid the L400 takes. I just found out the previous owner used regular ATF fluid in the transmission which I also just found out is not recommended, and might explain the rough shifting I occasionally have.

My question is: What kind of fluid is the best value for the L400 transmission? I know that the manual suggests Diaqueen SP-2 ATF fluid, and I want to treat my transmission like a baby so that it lasts a long time. What brand/type do you use?

Chrysler ATF+ is a recommended replacement for Diaqueen SP-2+
Redline ATF D4 is the equivalent to SP-3

I found this thread, which the listed ATF meets the requirements:

Subject: ATF
legionnair wrote:Just for your info one of e best bangs for buck ATF's. Its approve for toyota WS. The best part it is $25 for five litres at walmart

http://www.valvoline.com/products/consu ... n-fluid/37

Flush every 30-35000 km and not break the bank

Dustin


And this thread, but Redline is $$$ from what I remember

Subject: Can't Get Van to Shift into Drive!
jessef wrote:
VanVonVan wrote:
jfarsang wrote:For winter use Redline D6 ATF and summer ATF D4.

You'll be pleasantly surprised at how much smoother your auto will shift after using this fluid. It's amazing stuff.
So you flush your transmission every spring and fall I thought a tranny flush was once every 2 years?
didn't come out right. I used D4 and when winter came along and the transmission was stiff, I flushed it with D6 and kept it in. If you're in the lower mainland, D4 is plenty. In the interior or place that hit below 20 throughout the winter, D6 is the fluid to use.

Redline D6 is what the SARS/ambulance rigs use in northern BC and if you ask around, the Toyo/Cummins crowd in AB/SK as well.

Just like going from a low quality 15w40 to a synthetic 5w40 in the winter does to your engine, going from Dex to Redline is similar for your transmission and transfer case.


Any suggestions or additional info would be greatly appreciated!

Re: ATF Fluid Type

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:03 pm
by Feds
Lots of conflicting information around. Some people say the Chrysler fluid works, others say its different.

I use the valvoline max life as it specifically lists diamond compatibility.

Re: ATF Fluid Type

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 5:21 pm
by stever1000
Feds wrote:Lots of conflicting information around. Some people say the Chrysler fluid works, others say its different.

I use the valvoline max life as it specifically lists diamond compatibility.
That's my dilemma

I'll check out the valvoline max life at the store, thanks!

Anyone else?

Re: ATF Fluid Type

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:24 pm
by FalcoColumbarius
Have you checked the shop manual in the L400 Dedicated Category Reference Forum? Remember 'though, They didn't always come with the same motor. The tranny isn't necessarily going to be the same.

Falco.

Re: ATF Fluid Type

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:15 pm
by stever1000
Yes I checked the manual and it said Diaqueen SP-2

Re: ATF Fluid Type

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 7:07 pm
by islander20
I looked everywhere for valvoline max life. No luck, I ended up getting this

http://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/Fusio ... 521%5F.pdf

Shit aint cheap, better be good! Hopefully I can find some of that valvoline soon.

Re: ATF Fluid Type

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:11 pm
by thelazygreenfox
Have you tried a supplement for your ATF. Have a look at this supplement. ?????
http://www.lubegard.com/~/C-177/LUBEGAR ... Supplement
TLWF

Re: ATF Fluid Type

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 7:42 am
by stever1000
What store carries that? That looks like something I could definitely use!!

Re: ATF Fluid Type

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:48 pm
by thelazygreenfox
S1
Try Cambodian Tire. They carry an in house 5 Litre ATF at $30 and a Castrol at $32 that satisfy both DQ SP2 and 3.
I don't know who carries the supplement.
TLWF

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:00 pm
by Krazyistkarl
I looked around online a lot and saw it needs a specific oil, but It's an aisin warner transmission, and I don't see why it needs Mitsubishi oil, Chrysler oil *should* be fine as older jeeps use an aw4 transmission??

Re: ATF Fluid Type

Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 3:42 pm
by stever1000
thelazygreenfox wrote:S1
Try Cambodian Tire. They carry an in house 5 Litre ATF at $30 and a Castrol at $32 that satisfy both DQ SP2 and 3.
I don't know who carries the supplement.
TLWF
Excellent, I will be grabbing some on Monday

ATF Fluid Type

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:46 pm
by mcdeli
Hi Guys i am new but it looks like it has been a few years since anyone focused on the correct specific type of ATF fluid. My delica is a 1994 Delica Space Gear - HSEXF2 Super Exceed - Crystal-LITE ROOF. in my original japanese owners manual it says (after translation ) it takes mistubitshi genuine diamond queen or probably translates to Diaqueen ATF-SP (NOT ATF-SP2 OR SP3). I am hoping someone has since found some more updated info and can help. i just want to put the best / correct ATF in. any additonal help is really appreciated :-)

i found this on the web in my search...not that it is going to help too much :-)

1. By the end of the eighties, a conglomerate of car manufacturers "Mitsubishi" - "Hyundai" - "Proton", in the European and Asian markets began to use automatic transmission models and ATF SP specifications from DIAmond (named after "three diamonds", and developed in the MMC branches - Kyoto and Mizushima), and on the American market, due to continued cooperation with Chrysler, they installed its transmissions and ATF Mopar modification. In October 1985, partners officially launched the Diamond Star Motors Corporation (better known to us as “DSM”) in the USA - translated as “Diamond Star” in honor of the five-pointed Chrysler star and three Mitsubishi diamonds (now after their rupture, referred to as "Mitsubishi Motor Manufacturing of America Inc.) All ATF branded fluids from Mitsubishi (DiaQueen) are manufactured by its affiliate Nippon Mitsubishi Oil Corporation (known worldwide under the brand name" Diamant "). And analogues of branded specifications ( Nippon Mitsubishi Oil DiaQueen): ATF MMS SP-on a mineral basis, ATF MMS SP2-on a semi-synthetic basis, and ATF MM SP3 - with improved viscous, anti-friction, anti-wear and anti-oxidizing properties on a partially or fully synthetic basis, it was officially allowed to release: partner Hyundai auto concern (with the inscription: GENUINE HYUNDAI ATF AUTOMATIC TRANSAXLE FLUID), and the largest British oil company British Petroleum (as a joint for Europe and oil of the first factory filling. This was due to the official release of the first Mitsubishi car in Europe in 1995 - the Carisma model, at the joint NedCar automobile plant in the Netherlands with Volvo) ....... I think that now you (having mastered the reading of my writings) become more- it is less clear what caused such an abundance of ATF branded specifications: 1) there are no strict global requirements for them, such as motor oils, and this gives each manufacturer the right to their own, original developments and approaches in this area (for example, INVECS type); 2). you don’t need to constantly buy and use certificates, components, parts, and materials from competitors in production, but on the contrary, you can get your share of the profit on the market from the sale of your “automatic machines”, spare parts and ATF to them; 3). You can constantly feed your affiliated producers.