Stereo Ideas

Topics may eventually be moved to other Delica Canada forums.

Moderators: BCDelica, mark

User avatar
tonydca
Posts: 646
Joined: Tue May 19, 2009 9:01 pm
Member's Photo Album: http://www.delica.ca/Photos/
Vehicle: 95 L400 Exceed - yeah, baby!
Location: Vancouver BC
Location: Vancouver BC

Re: Stereo Ideas

Post by tonydca »

Green1 wrote:
Manitoba deli wrote:The factory amplifier might work with an aftermarket stereo, you just have to find someone with enough guts to hook it up and try. In two of my BMW's, I installed aftermarket stereo's, and hooked the speaker outputs to the factory amp, as this was what the factory deck's seemed to do.(no rca's) both worked fine. One car had a factory Pioneer system, and the other was a blapunkt (not sure of the spelling). Just ask your self "whats the worst that can happen" If your OK with the possibilities, go for it. (you can always try first with a $10 autowrecker deck)

Jason
On the Royal, the factory stereo does not use RCA outputs, but it also does NOT use speaker level outputs, it also has a couple of control channels to the amp.
I'm not saying you couldn't come up with a way to use the amp, I'm just saying that it is MUCH easier to bypass it, and there's no reason to use it as your new head unit is likely quite capable of driving the speakers.
But if I recall, the Royal has something like 10 speakers to the "normal" (like mine) 6. And my stock Mitsu stereo did not have RCA jack outputs either, it had a single 14-pin Molex-esque connector on the rear.

Perhaps the amp does some fancy modulating or other hocus pocus to get all 10 speakers sounding correct.

But regardless, it's going to accept a feed from the dash (head) unit, whether that feed is coming from, or controlled by, a rear "karaoke" unit or not.

I'd *still* double check the wiring before I yanked out the OEM amp; if the amp uses regular 4 zone FL/FR/RL/RR inputs, then I think any aftermarket dash stereo would work with a standard harness - do not normal decks have "powered" and "unpowered" outputs on the one harness? (unpowered for use if you have your own external amp)
Cry "Havoc!" and let slip the elementary-school-aged boys...
Green1
Posts: 3257
Joined: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:18 pm
Member's Photo Album: http://www.delica.ca/Photos/
Vehicle: 1994 L400 Royal Exceed PF8W
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Contact:

Re: Stereo Ideas

Post by Green1 »

tonydca wrote:I'd *still* double check the wiring before I yanked out the OEM amp; if the amp uses regular 4 zone FL/FR/RL/RR inputs, then I think any aftermarket dash stereo would work with a standard harness - do not normal decks have "powered" and "unpowered" outputs on the one harness? (unpowered for use if you have your own external amp)
I don't have the wiring info in front of me right now, but I believe that the head unit provides 6 zone inputs, which the amp passes to 6 outputs (the tweeters are paralleled with other speakers at the speaker)
I settled for 8 speakers instead of 10 when I re-wired.

Again, I'm not saying it's not possible, I'm just saying it would be a lot of work, work that for most people isn't really worth doing.
User avatar
macro
Posts: 646
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:37 pm
Member's Photo Album: http://www.delica.ca/Photos/
Vehicle: L400 "The Invader"
Location: Toronto, ON

Re: Stereo Ideas

Post by macro »

Thought I would revive this instead of starting a new thread.

Just wondering what people are using out there for stereo equipment and amp/sub combos and enclosure sizes? I know some of you must be running a big set up!

I've changed my door speakers to Alpine type E's so far, even though they're bottom of the line the difference was night and day. Well worth the $100!
8-)
User avatar
Firesong
Posts: 1363
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:03 am
Member's Photo Album: http://www.delica.ca/Photos/
Vehicle: 1998 L400 Delica Chamonix
Location: Saskatoon
Location: Saskatoon, SK. Canada

Re: Stereo Ideas

Post by Firesong »

Hey Macro
I have The Alpines throughout..
I've been so lazy though. Still looking for a place to put my amp or amps and Sub
I have a nice kenwood head unit I installed myself.
I hate how the rear seats fold up and cover up the 6x9's

FS
User avatar
macro
Posts: 646
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:37 pm
Member's Photo Album: http://www.delica.ca/Photos/
Vehicle: L400 "The Invader"
Location: Toronto, ON

Re: Stereo Ideas

Post by macro »

Firesong wrote:Hey Macro
I have The Alpines throughout..
I've been so lazy though. Still looking for a place to put my amp or amps and Sub
I have a nice kenwood head unit I installed myself.
I hate how the rear seats fold up and cover up the 6x9's

FS
Hmmmmm, over the winter I want to get the stereo accoutrement together over the winter and install in the spring. What size sub/amp are you going with? I was thinking of a 12" Kicker Solobaric but I want to keep the enclosure small. If you don't use those rear seats, just take 'em out and put a shelf in like I did!! They're easier to remove than the middle captains chairs, that's for sure. Are the 4" dash speakers worth replacing?

I guess we're the only ones with aftermarket stereos now eh?? :-P
User avatar
Firesong
Posts: 1363
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:03 am
Member's Photo Album: http://www.delica.ca/Photos/
Vehicle: 1998 L400 Delica Chamonix
Location: Saskatoon
Location: Saskatoon, SK. Canada

Stereo Ideas

Post by Firesong »

I replaced them all. The dash ones were easy ish too. All my oem speakers were ripped up. Really needed it.
I have two amps. Kenwood excellon units. And I have a Phoenix gold 12 " sub. Quite an old one but sounds good.

I might just put the one amp in and power the sub and front speakers. I have no idea where to put two amps. No room. We use the rear seats on occasion. After this winter I'll take them out. I did have them out once during the summer. Just not a lot of space here to store them.

I was considering making a false floor at the back but since we might need the seats down at any given time :(
mrdueck
Posts: 151
Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:55 pm
Member's Photo Album: http://www.delica.ca/Photos/
Vehicle: '95 L400 Super Exceed LWB
Location: Winnipeg
Location: Winnipeg, MB

Re: Stereo Ideas

Post by mrdueck »

I put one amp under each front seat. One old school Sony 4 channel amp (fairly large) under the drivers and new generation alpine (pdx) under the passenger seat because that is what I had. The amps now a days are significantly smaller and cheaper than back in the day. For entry level you may want to consider getting a 5 channel amp that will drive your 4 satelite speakers AND your sub in on package. As for brand name, you will have to do your research. There doesn't seem to be anything that is consistantly good from year to year at the entry level. Read the reviews...lots of them to get a balanced perspective.
Rudy
User avatar
Firesong
Posts: 1363
Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:03 am
Member's Photo Album: http://www.delica.ca/Photos/
Vehicle: 1998 L400 Delica Chamonix
Location: Saskatoon
Location: Saskatoon, SK. Canada

Re: Stereo Ideas

Post by Firesong »

Yah,
My excellon amps are cream of the crop.. so not tiny
I might be able to get one under the passenger seat if I make a platform
for above the 2 cross bars. But the other is too large.. <sigh>
I might just go ahead and make a sub floor at the back.. just
having back surgery on the 19 of Nov.. might end up being
a spring project.....
These amps are amazing..
Post Reply

Return to “General Discussion”