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Re: Monsanto, Chemtrails & our future. Must see. No kidding.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:30 pm
by after oil
This thread has been derailed. Chemtrails.... focus here folks.

Re: Monsanto, Chemtrails & our future. Must see. No kidding.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:34 pm
by Mr. Flibble
Has it? I personally would put chemtrails in the same category as religion. Granted, I have a bias. :)

Re: Monsanto, Chemtrails & our future. Must see. No kidding.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:14 pm
by after oil
cute :P

Re: Monsanto, Chemtrails & our future. Must see. No kidding.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:03 pm
by Elbrad
Back to the topic at hand then.

I'm not trying to be an asshole, but here is definitive proof to debunk "chemtrails".

First, you have to ask the questions "who" and "why". Who's causing these "chemtrails", and why would they bother? Is it Air Canada in a last-ditch attempt to mind-control us all into thinking they're not a terrible airline? The US military spreading American DNA from on high, so when they come to take us over we'll have absorbed so much of their genetic material we'll adapt more easily to NASCAR and pork rinds?

No. It's condensation from jet engines. First of all, what possible chemical could be spread at such high altitude that would have a desired effect upon a desired population? Secondly, why do it during the day? Why not at night when those damned busybody conspiracy nuts can't see the "chemtrails"? Third and final, there are so many more direct ways of distributing chemical into a population's ecosystem, such as tampering with the water supply, food supply (imagine if the sprayers in your local produce section had a few PPM of Mystery Chemical X! Oh shit...I think I've just sparked a whole new conspiracy and turned a bunch of people into Atkin's dieters.), the delivery method, time of day that it's done, and dissipation method all work against the idea of chemtrails.

Long story short, they're not real. They're the product of a paranoid mind.

Some fun reading:

http://contrailscience.com/barium-chemtrails/

Re: Monsanto, Chemtrails & our future. Must see. No kidding.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:54 pm
by FalcoColumbarius
I saw this wonderous "Con-trail" on Saturday. The aeroplane was silver/grey but I could make out no markings (pretty far away). The trail spilled out in the wake of the aircraft and spread out widely. The interesting thing I found was how it cast a shadow on the cloud behind it. I've never seen that before, at least not been aware of such shadows.

Falco.

Re: Monsanto, Chemtrails & our future. Must see. No kidding.

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:59 pm
by FalcoColumbarius
Elbrad wrote:Back to the topic at hand then.

I'm not trying to be an asshole, but here is definitive proof to debunk "chemtrails".

First, you have to ask the questions "who" and "why". Who's causing these "chemtrails", and why would they bother? .....
Elbrad,
From the film (link in the OP) I get the understanding that Monsanto, who own 80% of the world's seed stock, are developing a "super seed" that withstands aluminium, the theory that the non aluminium proofed seed stocks would perish in an environment polluted with aluminium. Allegedly the chem-trails are distributing aluminium, strontium & barium. Prior to the latter 20th century there was no readings of these chemicals in the surface skin of the Earth but from the nineties on there have been alarming amounts turning up in the surface soil. I guess the reasoning behind this argument is Monsanto's total control of the seed stock, therefore the food of the planet.

Also for military dominance of the world ~ you control the weather, you control everything.

Falco.

Re: Monsanto, Chemtrails & our future. Must see. No kidding.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:12 pm
by Mr. Flibble
FalcoColumbarius wrote:]Elbrad,
From the film (link in the OP) I get the understanding that Monsanto, who own 80% of the world's seed stock, are developing a "super seed" that withstands aluminium, the theory that the non aluminium proofed seed stocks would perish in an environment polluted with aluminium. Allegedly the chem-trails are distributing aluminium, strontium & barium. Prior to the latter 20th century there was no readings of these chemicals in the surface skin of the Earth but from the nineties on there have been alarming amounts turning up in the surface soil. I guess the reasoning behind this argument is Monsanto's total control of the seed stock, therefore the food of the planet.

Also for military dominance of the world ~ you control the weather, you control everything.

Falco.[/color]
The belief in things such as chem-trails is a "Type I" error.



There is simply no hard evidence for chem-trails. There is more strontium and barium in the soil, as well as aluminum. But this is because of modern technological advances. We are actively mining these metals. Prior to the time of Napoleon, raw aluminum was so rare that it was more valuable than gold! Now it is common. Aluminum oxide (bauxite) sits in the ground in large deposits.

Is it possible that Monsanto is doing this? Sure, it is possible that I could jump to the moon. The question is, is it likely? Does it actually make any sense? Not really. Monsanto could make much more money doing exactly what they are doing as a corporation with genetics and patents than spending tons of money "sending out chemtrails".