Weird electrical issues appeared

[Katabatic]

Hi,

Some weird stuff going on, both my headlights quit working, high beams still work though. Toggeling the light on and off do nothing, the dash light wont turn off neither will the DRL's, even with the key out! and the really annoying buzzing sound for leaving the lights on wont stop either whne lights turned "off". All other electics work, fog lights, turbo timer etc. i found a post that explained the exact opposite happening and it sounds like it may be a fuse, going to do a double check on them.

anybody had a similar problem? Is there a fuse i could pull to shut off the DRL's so they won,t drain the battery or doo i need to disconect a battery post?

[Golf Cart]

Tardisdeli Jay and Chritine had that same problem

[jessef]

Are you DRL's wired up properly ?

[Katabatic]

Well, I've had my Delica for almost a year and a half and its gone through a couple of bulbs...is that a sign?

so to turn the lights out and stop the buzzing so i could go inside and not come out to a dead battery, I had to detach a battery post, i went back out to move the van, reattached the post, the Buzzing stoped and now I have no headlights, both low and high and no dash lights...???? WTF. The DRL's still work and the Fogs.

[jessef]

So far the wierdest headlight/bulb/DRL issue's I've seen on Pajero/Delica's have been linked directly to the DRL installs.

If you can eliminate that (easy) then test it. If it's still there, you may have a short on one or more of the wires.

[Katabatic]

How do you test/elimate DRL issues?

[Golf Cart]

You said Hibeam worked , but not lows at one point? I had that happen to me as well ( 15 minutes after picking up my Deli)

Ended up being the Lights/Wiper controls were hooped. I opened up the first dead one after replacing with a used control , and the electronics board had arced and the contacts between the hi/low setting was black.

What about signals ?

[Katabatic]

high beam and dash lights did work originally but after I took off a battery terminal to turn the DRL'sand buzzer off then reconnected the terminal the hight beams and dash lights dont work, only the DRL'S

I am not that comfortable with vehicle wiring, is this something I can take care of or do i need a mechanic?

[jessef]

If you have a relay for DRL's and it melted or had an arc/connection between low beam and 12V+ constant, then it could knock out your headlights and leave the buzzer (thinks headlights are still on) even if you turn off the switch.

Or like Golf said. Could be the switch.

[EricN]

Does the dash lights work with the fog light switch?

[Katabatic]

negative

[TardisDeli]

Dude Katabatic,

We had exactly same issue,sort of resolved now.

Easier Way to turn off the lights (instead of disconnecting battery): pull 2 fuses - the third from left on top row is the running lights, And the fourth from the right on top row is the headlights. Both are blue 15 amp fuses.

Full solution: You have to take the headlight switch apart (this is inside the steering column cover), as our problem was the lever stalk that is the headlight / turn signal switch. The inside end of the lever stalk that moves the switch cracked off, and now the lights are stuck on.

To access the headlight switch, which is located at the top of the steering column, just under the steering wheel. Unscrew the steering column cover, very gently pry apart the top of the 2 halves of the cover, now see the birds nest of the wires, but you need to remove the steering wheel to pull the switch off the steering column.

Steering wheel removal: THIS IS FOR EXPERTS ONLY ... NO GUARANTEES >>> TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK. remove the horn box thingy by a undoing a screw underneath it. Now back off the centre nut till it is flush with the centre shaft, put your knee under the steering wheel to push up, and your hand on top of the steering wheel (at noon position) and try to pull it towards you, and whack the end of the shaft with a hammer, pray hard, cuz if this doesnt loosen the wheel, then you need to borrow / buy a steering wheel puller, or get a qualified mechanic to pull off the wheel is best.

Now the steering wheel is off, see the switch sits on top like a large squashed doughnut, gently undo 1 connector and cut 3 tie straps. Now you have the switch. You can try to clean it a bit, see if the headlight switch is broken at the end of the lever, gently. You might need a new switch (check with mardy or glen for a used one).

We bypassed the switch, and bypassed the Daytime running light module, which is NOT the proper way to do it. We wired in a new headlight switch (in the spot beside the cigarette lighter) which allows me to have running lights, and low beams. Still use the headlight stalk for high beams.

By the way, the fog lights when operating properly, are not affected by the headlight switch problem. When you turn on fogs, also it turns on all the running lights at the front and back, including the Del-ica name lights at the back.

Feel free to PM Private Message to Jay for info, but include your phone number as Jay does not type, but he does read the posts.

[Katabatic]

so...still trying to figure this out, took the steering wheel off and pulled out the switch, there was definatlely some arcing as the circuit board is blackend, Glen at CC doesn't have any used switches (seems its very common) and new ones are $800! ouch. I re soldered a couple of loose circuits (now my high beams stay on and i have DRL's) The issue now is The column switch doesn't do anything to the headlights and with the keys out the dash lights stay on and the annoying buzzer does as well. So, I am forced to detach the battery lead every time i park the van.

Anybody good at the electrical side of things that knows what wire and circuit location would be causing the problems. Or a step by step to instal a new switch to turn the lights on to by pass the column?

[TardisDeli]

Have you checked to see if the switch is actually moving the contacts in the switch thats what went wrong with ours a little piece of plastic broke off at the end of the switch stalk,so we couldn't turn the lights off. I ended up installing a new switch in the blank space to the right of the cigerette lighter.Eventually i'll repace the headlight switch i got off Mardy [Thanks Mardy].Anyway good luck if you any more questions PM me. Cheers Jay TardisDeli.

[Katabatic]

bingo, yeah the end of the little piece of plastic was broken off that is why I couldn't turn the lights off (and stupid buzzer) But strangely i manually turned the switch off with my finger and the dash lights and buzzer stop but the DRL,s stay on. Must be a problem with the DRL module...so where is that little bugger located? and can I by pass it for the time being. And anybody know where I can find a used working column switch.

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We bypassed the switch, and bypassed the Daytime running light module, which is NOT the proper way to do it. We wired in a new headlight switch (in the spot beside the cigarette lighter) which allows me to have running lights, and low beams. Still use the headlight stalk for high beams.

How would I do this...colour of wires? location of Module, etc etc. need help