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Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:54 am
by Beans on Toast
Hey Everybody,
I have been trying to fix the heat in the Deli for a couple weeks now. So far I have had the thermostat replaced, the waterpump, all the lines for the heat flushed, all with no success. It blows a bit warmer than it did before all this work, but it's not warm enough to heat up the cabin at all. My mechanic is at his wits end, he says he's measured the temp. of all the lines with a infrared meter, and everything seems to be working as it should. For some reason it just won't blow hot air from the vents. The fan seems to be blowing the same as other Deli's. He has done thermostat replacement on other Deli's with success, and cannot figure out why mine ain't cooperating. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know, cause it's fricken freezing up here today,
Cheers, Dan.

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:29 am
by delicat
Check your PM...

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:21 pm
by visotzky
I have a similar problem....it only blows warmish.i got new thermostat and waterpump... Delicat you got an idea?

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:46 pm
by Green1
my idea is that it's a diesel engine, small diesels don't generate much heat... I find it almost impossible to keep a reasonably warm temperature in the Delica, but it's miles ahead of my last diesel car!

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:17 pm
by kaichen
I don't know about 'small diesels do not create much heat'!
Our VW Jettas have always provided lots of heat.

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:47 pm
by patty
i think its just the vehicles set up, so much open space and glass the air just cools down real was too,then again my back door leaks so what do i know?!

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:48 pm
by Green1
I seem to have reduced the leakage around most of the doors (forgot to do the tailgate) and it has helped a lot, I also find that closing the sunshades and the curtains makes a difference too, but I'm still at no risk of heat-stroke in there in the winter!

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:05 pm
by Beans on Toast
I have heard that some Deli's get too hot, like you have to crack a window. It's definately not like that in mine, but that's what I'm looking for.

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:36 pm
by mattias
I'm sorry I don't have any advice - our Delica provides plenty of heat, except the rear ceiling vents no longer blow hot like the floor vents . . . kinda weird. Anyone else have this problem?

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:46 pm
by Beans on Toast
I think the ceiling vents are for A/C only-vents on the floor are for heat

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:10 pm
by Green1
, except the rear ceiling vents no longer blow hot like the floor vents . . . kinda weird. Anyone else have this problem?
I'd be more concerned with your statement that they used to provide heat, considering that the duct work doesn't connect to the heater at all...

the rule in the back is that the top is for cold the bottom is for hot (take a look at the sliders and glue a popsicle stick between them if you want, they might as well move together)

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:35 pm
by JMK
FWIW, I haven't had a chance to replace thermostat, pump, etc., yet. But the Chamonix I just got seems to stay toasty warm even at -26.

There's a chance the circulation in your heater core is impeded. One cause in real cold climes could be inadequate coolant turning slushy and therefore not circulating. If it is plugged with detritius then even a flush may not improve circulation. Did the mechanic look at the IR signature at the outflow of the heater core and compare it to the outflow at the rad where it goes to the heater core? If a significant difference could be noted perhaps that would be a good diagnostic tool.

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:24 pm
by BCDelica
JMK wrote:FWIW, I haven't had a chance to replace thermostat, pump, etc., yet. But the Chamonix I just got seems to stay toasty warm even at -26.

There's a chance the circulation in your heater core is impeded. One cause in real cold climes could be inadequate coolant turning slushy and therefore not circulating. If it is plugged with detritius then even a flush may not improve circulation. Did the mechanic look at the IR signature at the outflow of the heater core and compare it to the outflow at the rad where it goes to the heater core? If a significant difference could be noted perhaps that would be a good diagnostic tool.
Good idea, if your heater core is restricted what's your radiator like? A proper caustic fluid flush is a must for all Delicas. Mine didn't blow warm at all fresh of the boat (it sat for over 8 years) and now both Delicas can get too warm.

http://www.techguys.ca/howto/coolant_flush.html

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:44 pm
by john clem
hi dan, sounds like a circulation problem for sure, heat there but not moving enough. pop your return and supply hoses to the heater core off _ONE at a time while your engine is idling. have an assistant slowly topping up the rad with you 50/50 mix of coolant) now ya can observe return flow after figuring out which one it is. a big burp of air out then solid coolant flow, fixed same problem on a cherokee the other day. if there is no air and good return flow (hot) then you would have leaky air ducting or a stuck flap. hope that helps.

Re: Heat issues

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:25 pm
by mattias
I'd be more concerned with your statement that they used to provide heat, considering that the duct work doesn't connect to the heater at all...
oops . . . my bad. thanks for the clarification!