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Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:09 am
by nxski
My van has smoked profusely since long before I owned her. Last week I had the block heater and oil pa heater plugged in, started her up and barely a puff. I was assuming the smoke was from dirty injectors but would this indicate a different reason?

Re: Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:47 pm
by deli1733
Its really easy to just take the injectors out and get them checked to eliminate that thought.

Re: Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:31 pm
by rezdiver
white, blue or black smoke?

Re: Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:06 pm
by nxski
Grey / black smoke!? I might get the injectors cleaned if I have enough saved before my trip.

Re: Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:48 pm
by Luna-Sea
Smoke just at start up ya?
If the smoking disappeared when you
had it plugged in I would be thinking
your glow plug revamp still needs
Some tweaking.
Anyone?

Right On! 8-)

Re: Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:51 pm
by nxski
Just at startup, it doesn't matter if it's warm or cold though nor does it matter what I do with my manual glow plug switch.

Re: Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:26 pm
by snelson
Just at first start up of the day, hot or cold - I would be thinking mildly leaky valve stems.
Little bit of oil getting into combustion chamber as it sits for a few hours like overnight.

Re: Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:16 pm
by nxski
Not necessarily the first start of the day but if it's been sitting for a few hours. I know the valve cover gasket is leaking but haven't checked the stems.

Re: Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:20 pm
by rezdiver
if preheating the engine made the smoke go away, then its probably just blowby or leaky stem seals making it smoke when the engine is cold, seals and rings contract when cold and you get some oil bypassing into the cylinder. blackish smoke.

if you had leaky injectors then the coolant block heater would not have much effect as the injectors would still dribble a bit into the cylinder and you would get unburnt fuel smoke when you start it. greyish smoke.

now you could always have both issues, but you said you barely had a puff with it being plugged in.

Re: Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:38 pm
by Raule Duke
nxski wrote:Just at startup, it doesn't matter if it's warm or cold though nor does it matter what I do with my manual glow plug switch.

My truck did this, I had one injector that butch said was beyond cleaning, replaced all four and no more smoke hot or cold!!

Re: Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:10 pm
by FalcoColumbarius
Smoke is always the sign of a cold fire, eh?

Re: Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:24 pm
by thedjjack
FalcoColumbarius wrote:Smoke is always the sign of a cold fire, eh?
Nope...

Re: Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:38 pm
by nxski
A little bit of smoke would be normal but there is a massive about coming out. She smokes for about 30-60 seconds and higher revs help to reduce the smoke. After that time I look in the sky and see a huge grey could hanging over my house and the 3 neighbour's houses and somehow the inside of the house reeks no matter how tightly shut the windows are. :?

Re: Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:16 am
by strada-caster
my truck does something along the same lines, smoke like a beast (greyish) only on start up but for about 5 minutes if its cold enough then low on power, high on fuel consumption when warm. If I plug it in, there could be almost no smoke.

take note, I do have blow-by, I got the valve stem seals fixed, but didn't check the valve stems themselves.
My thought is my compression rings are on the way out/ its cold in thunder bay and shrinks the metal until it warm enough....
maybe you're engine is similar...

Heat stops smoking?

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:14 am
by Raule Duke
I would be sure that your injectors are spraying correctly also. Have you done a compression test?