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Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:22 am
by jcolvin
JDM Wholesale was on the news today (March 13) (radio, am1130). Just a brief news report that the VSA has taken the "very rare" step of shutting them down. The reason given on the news was that they had been importing vehicles from the USA that were not registerable in BC. No mention was made of japanese imports though.

I'd say if there was a news release from VSA then they must be "making an example" of them pour encourager les autres. Encouraging though that no mention was made in the news release of Japanese imports, so perhaps it is not being spun that way.

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:44 am
by tomanique
About 1200 meters:
1200 metres if you can either fly or don't mind an invigorating dip in the mighty muddy Fraser. By car its a good 15-20 minutes.

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:11 am
by jaggedfish
Yup... heard it this morning (14th). I've stayed away from getting into the fray but now it's public knowledge. Heard it this morning on SUN-FM (Cowichan Valley station)... "their assets have been seized".... 2 individuals named... first and last names mentioned... "fled to New Zealand".

The report I heard spoke of selling non-compliant vehicles in Canada, not so much about importing. NOT illegal to import vehicles within the guidelines laid out by the gov't but IS illegal to SELL those vehicles if they are not deemed "safe" by an appropriate authority prior.

The unfortunate side is nobody wins in these situations once it gets to this stage. I am not involved in this particular issue, nor do I wish to be, but I will say one thing...

Most people wouldn't start something with ill intent (with the exception of some illegal activities of course) but if you screw something up for yourself or others along the way... act like a real man, stand up and take your lumps, brush yourself off, then move on... nobody gets hurt, everybody learns a lesson. I realize this is naive from a business perspective but on the flip side, I've also been witness to Kharma's wrath and, like every superstition, I wouldn't tempt fate. Kharma has a wicked sense of humour and you never know what form of repercussion she will dish out.

Just my 2 cents.... 'nuff said.

I hope those that are more intimately involved are able to recoup their losses somehow and will be rewarded by owning one of these great vehicles we all love and are able to return to enjoying life to it's fullest. Personally, I would like to hear if the JDM folks come thru and do the right thing in the long run.

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:26 am
by Green1
"not compliant"? interesting... I was given the option when I bought through them of wether I wanted them to have an OOP inspection done or not... and I had one done, however there was no good reason to, because I was registering it in AB not BC, so the BC OOP was irrelevant for me...

As long as they tell me that they haven't put it through an OOP inspection, what requires them to do so?

I'd say they are being made an example of, but I still haven't heard of anything they did wrong... If I were another importer in BC I'd be REALLY nervous about now, it appears that BC is trying a different tact in their war on our right to drive unique and practical vehicles...

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:19 am
by loki
There was mention that the importing of vehicles from the US was mentioned and not from Japan, and that VSA is likely making an example of them. I would think that this has little to do with RHD and more to do with the Government's weird attempts to appease the Canadian divisions of these international car makers and trying to stop the flood of US vehicles being imported into Canada. My dad was looking at getting a BMW down there but the new rules are insane, you have to get it "complianced" by a BMW dealer in Canada (not just a certified shop) and get a letter of approval from BMW Canada (of course when you try and get that they will say, but we could sell you one of those right here in Canada (for $10,000 more)). Anyways, that is my take on it and hope they keep focusing southward instead of across the pond.

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:39 am
by dmg
{BROKEN LINK}

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:55 am
by mararmeisto
I seem to recall reading somewhere on another forum that an American had bought a Pajero or a Land Cruiser from JDM Wholesale. The problem I saw with that when reading it was the 15yr vs 25yr conflict. This is one of the links I just found again:

http://forum.ih8mud.com/chit-chat-secti ... da-nz.html

Makes me wonder if they were selling a vehicle that wasn't quite 25yr-old-enough, but that is just speculation on my part. What does seem to be apparent from that post is that the individual received a vehicle that was not quite up to their expectations.

The article from The Province can be found here:

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/ ... e9d98d862f

Interesting story.

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:36 pm
by mama lou
As far as the comment from green one i think? of still not knowing if Jdm have done anything wrong: We are one of the people who are owed money by them and i recieved a letter yesterday stating they are in recievership with a long list of who all they owe money to and it seems to be much greater than thier seized assets...

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:26 pm
by Jester
good riddance
From everything I've read and heard so far, seems like a typical slash and burn operation.
When the game was up, they split back home..
Seems like the community is better off without such 'business people" around

I wonder if we'll still get the full explanation from the horse's mouth, as promissed by James:
When the time is right I will explain in full detail EXACTLY what the situation was, but until then I have received legal advice in which I have been instructed to refrain from comment.

Regards

James

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:24 pm
by fishslapper
Green1 wrote:I'd say they are being made an example of, but I still haven't heard of anything they did wrong... If I were another importer in BC I'd be REALLY nervous about now, it appears that BC is trying a different tact in their war on our right to drive unique and practical vehicles...
As another individual who is in the middle of this mess and has received a letter from the receiver listing upwards of 20 individuals and companies that JDM owes money to so I wonder how you can continue to say they haven't done anything wrong. This isn't a case of the government attacking importers of Japanese vehicles or a specific importer because of a grudge. The VSA doesn't care who you are but definately cares what kind of business you conduct. In this case JDM Wholesale blatantly ripped people off and fled the country. In my books that is wrong. If they had stayed here and dealt with the mess then maybe I'd have a little more respect for them.

We're still hoping to get our vehicle and after speaking to the receiver today it should be within the next month. Then maybe after more than 7 months we can enjoy our Delica :)

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:34 pm
by Fanny Bay Delica
JDM -- Good riddance to bad rubbish. I'm tired of individuals defending crooks!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:49 pm
by fishslapper
Here's a good story outlining the situation:

BURNABY, BC, March 13 /CNW/ - The assets of JDM Wholesale Canada Ltd. of
Delta, a motor dealer and importer, have been seized and a receiver has been
appointed to deal with the affairs of the company. The receiver will assess
the claims of a long list of dissatisfied customers, a warranty insurer and
other suppliers.
As a result of an investigation by the Motor Vehicle Sales Authority of
B.C. (VSA), and upon application by the Registrar of Motor Dealers, the B.C.
Supreme Court issued an order requiring obedience to the January 11, 2008
freeze order issued by the Registrar of Motor Dealers and on February 29, the
B.C. Supreme Court ordered the appointment of the receiver. Named in the
orders are the company and its principals, James and Iain Robinson.
In the face of this investigation and following a hearing before the
Registrar, it appears as if James and Iain Robinson have fled to New Zealand
and even attempted, from that location, to have assets from Vancouver
transferred to them, despite the freeze order in place. Several vehicles
destined for consumers were found by VSA compliance officers still in
containers at port terminals. At least one of these vehicles had been
previously sold to another customer.
In court documents filed in the B.C. Supreme Court, the VSA investigation
alleges:

- Premiums paid by customers for extended warranties sold by JDM on at
least 20 vehicles, had never been forwarded to the insurer, Lubrico
Warranty.

- There has been a failure to submit provincial sales tax on vehicle
sales.

- One customer paid US $14,500 for a vehicle, but discovered when he
took delivery that it failed to meet Canadian standards and could not
be registered. His request for a refund was ignored.

- A vehicle subject to the freeze order was sold in February for
$11,500 cash by James Robinson, with a receipt provided by
Mr. Robinson's wife. The purchaser, who had been promised that
paperwork would follow, never received the necessary documentation
and could not register the vehicle. It was later learned that this
vehicle had been previously sold to another customer.

"While various investigations continue into the affairs of JDM and its
principals, our foremost concern is for JDM's customers," said Ian Christman,
VSA Deputy Registrar. "The receiver will attempt to satisfy the aggrieved
parties, including, where practical, bringing the remaining imported vehicles
into compliance with Canadian standards. We would urge anyone who feels
victimized by JDM to contact Denis Savidan, VSA's Manager of Compliance and
Investigations at 604-294-9889 ext. 527."

For further information: Judy McRae, Manager Corporate Services and
Communication, Phone: (604) 293-3521, The Motor Vehicle Sales Authority of British Columbia


http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/arch ... c3771.html

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:40 pm
by loki
selling a car that you have already sold? doesn't get more clear cut low life than that IMO.

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:59 pm
by JMK
Fishslapper,

I note with interest that you updated the NZ Performance Car Forum, and that they deleted all previous posts regarding RF Imports and JDM WHolesale.

As well, they got pissy again when you updated their forum with the pure facts consisting of this article.

I wonder what dynamics are in place that this NZ based Forum is in such denial about RF Imports? I really doubt it is extreme zenophobia. There is probably a story to be told here too. I think that at this point RF Imports is exercising their best efforts at damage control in their own country now, and lurking in the NZ based forums under assumed identities.

It's probably time for anyone who is concerned to make a contribution to some of the other NZ based Forums that may be more objective than NZ Performance Car. I wonder if anyone has come across other forums that may be useful for that?

Re: JDM Wholesale Canada

Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 6:14 pm
by fishslapper
I do find it interesting that they are so against people trying to do them a service by giving a heads up about what is going on.....

If we can save someone else months of their lives and thousands of dollars then i would be very happy.....

It has nothing to do with bashing New Zealand people.. We have not done any name calling just information giving..... Heck i did not even post any pictures of mel scantily clad !!!

It is hard to say nothing has been done wrong when it involves 20 people plus GST,PST, B.C. supreme court, V.S.A...... the list goes on and on... And folks.... We cannot tell you everything yet...... There is more still.....