EGR Blocking or Cleaning?

[Profister]

for the guys who have used the blocking plate system. how the hell did you fit it in and get the screws across?

What seems to be a problem? With my 'zero' mechanical skills I did it in 15 minutes.

[patty]

its not that im not understanding the procedure. i just cant line up the screw now. my blocking plate is less then 1/4th and i still cant line everything up.im gonna shave it down a bit and then see how it works, that or get a real big guy on the channle locks to old it in place for me while i put the screw in.

[patty]

alright, so i gave up on blocking the EGR and put everything back together as is stock. my blocking plate piece was way to thick. im seeing others and they went with ones that are around 1 to 2 mm whilst mine is 1/4 inch.

anyhow when i had the valve taken right out i looked inside it. the valve was closed, as it should be. so does that mean its not my EGR causing my grief as clearly it still works?

my symptoms are:
-black smoke when not under load
-lack of power/ loss of power when not under load
-not able to get up to high speeds (60km +)
-starts up right away with little smoke

it really shouldn't be my IP or injectors as they both had work done with in the last 8 months
today i also changed my fuel filter, i figured it was pretty clogged up.
ill probably end up getting a thinner piece and try blocking off the EGR again

im also thinking it might be these
[quote]It turns out that a timing belt rotor failed which caused all hell to break loose. Bent valves, one broken cylinder head, sheared rocker arm rod (I think that's what it's called). Pretty frustrating. The van as 130k on it and the timing belt and rotors were replaced at 109 when we bought it./quote]
[quote]I had exactly the same problem black smoke more than normal loss of power going
uphills.Took my van to Kamoolps Thompson Valley Diesel Injection Ltd.
ask for Holly he found some kind of arm that operates burned fuel that opens and closes a valve.Sorry i can not explain this any better.The arm is under the van and had corroded off.After he repaired the broken arm way more power going up hills and less smoke.He also rebuild my injector pump earlier in the year this guy knows his diesels 250-372-9300...hope this helps...john M
/quote]

thanks

[DelicaMark]

-not able to get up to high speeds (60km +). This seems like it could be turbo related to me. Mine went and there was no way that I could get up to speed. Warmland89's waste gate had an issue with not closing and that caused him not to be able to get up to speed either. I'd look into to your turbo and make sure that 1. it is spooling up and 2. the waste gate is working okay.

Smoke not under load could be coming from the EGR working properly. It should be open during non-load/idle conditions and therefore injecting exhaust gases. If you are getting tonnes of black smoke then that might another thing all together, but if it just a small amount then that might be it. Saying all of that though most would agree I think that you should not be getting much of any smoke most times if everything is working...idling or under load. The only time that I get smoke is when I just floor it.

-Mark

[docsavage]

I concur with Mark, sounds like a turbo issue. Refer to this post to see if the boost adjustment arm is there and functioning:

http://www.delica.ca/forum/adjusting-tu ... st+control

James

[patty]

so i went out and got a thinner blocking plate cut, stuck it in super easily. tested out the deli on some local hills and what not. i do have alot more power and alot less smoke. however, i still dont have the amount of power i remember having before, and im still blowing smoke not under load, not as much as before but still some.

ill look into this "1. turbo spooling up and 2. the waste gate is working okay."

thanks for the help guys!

[EnviroImports.com]

Post again after driving for a couple days, if your egr valves failed in the open position, your intake will be Covered in SOOT and Nastyness. so it will take a couple days of driving to get that burt off .

[impalator]

Just another quick question...

I want to block my EGR valve.... wanted to do it since I read David's earlier post.... the only question I have is: I believe I read somewhere that this could have a detrimental effect on air-care inspection outcome (i.e. there is a chance with a blocked EGR valve you can't pass?)

Is this warranted? has anybody had problems passing air-care with the blanking plate in place?

If I am going to put the blanking plate in, I don't want to have to remove it upon going for aircare - I'd like to see this as a "permanent" installation...

Thanks for any feedback...

Happy Easter,
Chris

And Noel: If you are going to manufacture some blanking plates I'd definitively be interested... I just don't have the shop / machine abilities to make one myself right now...

[FalcoColumbarius]

Delicat just passed Aircare, with flying colours. Mind you, the Mitsushi runs on chicken karaage, which may have had a lot to do with his victory.

Falco.

[delicat]

Actually I ran both of my Delica with blocked EGR and the non-veggie passed fine as well.

http://www.delica.ca/forum/egr-blocking ... vs+aircare

[konadog]

I believe I read somewhere that this could have a detrimental effect on air-care inspection outcome

My trusted delica guru mechanic advised me that blocking the EGR can have detrimental effects on the motor itself and strongly advised against it...

[patty]

Alright, its been a couple days. It seems the smoke is slowly disappearing, but is still very much there when I go slowly (like 40 km/hr) up hills. Right now I'm thinking:

1) Tank of rotten or bad diesel (been in there for around 3 maybe 4 months) though, I'v seen my dad put year old diesel in his big trucks so who knows.
2) The lack of a fuel filter change for such a long period of time (now changed) clogged up the fuel injectors.
3) Timing is off, I find this hard to believe cause it was done pretty recently, but who knows!

Any thoughts?

Thanks