CADA Seeking federal ban on RHD imports in Canada!
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Re: CADA Seeking federal ban on RHD imports in Canada!
Mid-intersection lane changes are illegal here in BC, though I doubt you will ever see a ticket handed out for it... I really think we should have to redo our driver's test - or at least a written test, when we renew our licenses - Keep sharp on the rules of the road....
RHD, LHD, whatever. We all know it makes no difference. If yer a with-it driver yer a with-it driver, if not, well, it doesn't matter what you're piloting....
RHD, LHD, whatever. We all know it makes no difference. If yer a with-it driver yer a with-it driver, if not, well, it doesn't matter what you're piloting....
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Re: CADA Seeking federal ban on RHD imports in Canada!
Good of you to point that out, but IMHO there is little point in contacting the CADA; they are pursuing their own agenda, which is to increase their own sales by banning RHD imports. Period. No amount of arguments will cause them to do otherwise.M3ti Compact wrote:Speak up!
at the bottom of this link
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/arch ... c4193.html
there is an e-mail and phone to the CADA public affairs representative
Emily Reid
CADA Public Affairs
Phone: 613-230-2079
Email: ereid@cada.ca
If you want to potentially have more of an effect, do as I have and contact/email the list of decision/policy-makers that marameisto gave earlier on in this thread.
CADA themselves can do nothing but run to the end of their collective chains and bark. Its the gub'mint that sets the rules, so they should receive the bulk of our attention.
Tony.
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Re: CADA Seeking federal ban on RHD imports in Canada!
This is from the police officer that rights the Drivesmartbc column. Sorry the Drive Smart website seems to be down or moved?
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Behind the Wheel - June 23, 2004
Changing Lanes in Intersections
I am often asked to tell the motoring public that it is illegal to change lanes in an intersection. I cannot do this, because there is no specific rule prohibiting this driving action in the Motor Vehicle Act. However, a defensive driver will choose not to do this, even if it is legal.
The Motor Vehicle Act prohibits lane changes when doing so is unsafe or will affect the travel of another vehicle. In addition a driver must not change lanes if it means crossing a solid line. If there is no traffic in or near the intersection the lane change would be allowed as solid lines are not usually painted within intersections.
Keeping in mind that more than 50% of collisions in British Columbia occur in intersections, it is wise to keep vehicle movements there uncomplicated. This is why defensive driving prohibits making a lane change within the intersection. The choice removes one element of uncertainty for other drivers and that creates a safer driving environment.
In summary, choose the lane you want to use and occupy it well in advance of the intersection. If you decide that it is not the correct lane to use after all, wait until you are well clear of the intersection and then change lanes again as necessary. "
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Behind the Wheel - June 23, 2004
Changing Lanes in Intersections
I am often asked to tell the motoring public that it is illegal to change lanes in an intersection. I cannot do this, because there is no specific rule prohibiting this driving action in the Motor Vehicle Act. However, a defensive driver will choose not to do this, even if it is legal.
The Motor Vehicle Act prohibits lane changes when doing so is unsafe or will affect the travel of another vehicle. In addition a driver must not change lanes if it means crossing a solid line. If there is no traffic in or near the intersection the lane change would be allowed as solid lines are not usually painted within intersections.
Keeping in mind that more than 50% of collisions in British Columbia occur in intersections, it is wise to keep vehicle movements there uncomplicated. This is why defensive driving prohibits making a lane change within the intersection. The choice removes one element of uncertainty for other drivers and that creates a safer driving environment.
In summary, choose the lane you want to use and occupy it well in advance of the intersection. If you decide that it is not the correct lane to use after all, wait until you are well clear of the intersection and then change lanes again as necessary. "
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Re: CADA Seeking federal ban on RHD imports in Canada!
Okay, I'm game... what is our next move? Perhaps we should have a physical meeting ~ seriously ~ observing Robert's Rules Of Engagement and in a venue with chairs and a table... just a thought... smiles.elbosque wrote:All we have to do to win this once and for all is for all of us to do something beyond reading and responding to these posts.
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We all drive big billboards, make signs.. Anybody work at a vinyl sign shop? It couldn't be more than $20 a pop to get something made with some clear facts regarding RHD, and some facts regarding the statistical manipulation that is threatening our freedom to drive what ever vehicle we please.
Maybe we can get some 30 word or less idea's? Im so fed up, I'm willing to get two made.
Maybe we can get some 30 word or less idea's? Im so fed up, I'm willing to get two made.
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Re: CADA Seeking federal ban on RHD imports in Canada!
Back to the topic...I just phoned the CADA @ Phone: 613-230-2079
the person I need to talk to just stepped out. I asked them to record:
1) That the are citing none peer reviewed biased studies
2) The study the are quoting have be shown to be statistically wrong
3) That in areas in Europe that RHD and LHD share the roads do not support this
4) That arguments that newer cars are safer are not supported in literature.
5) That if safety was a concern they would be more concerned with recalls of the car manufactures they represent.
6) That they should be held liable for intentional miss information and slander.
I will call back again in the next few days. If you have 3 minutes please take the time. A person picks up the phone making this a rewarding call.
Please put me down for a bumper sticker. Cash in hand
the person I need to talk to just stepped out. I asked them to record:
1) That the are citing none peer reviewed biased studies
2) The study the are quoting have be shown to be statistically wrong
3) That in areas in Europe that RHD and LHD share the roads do not support this
4) That arguments that newer cars are safer are not supported in literature.
5) That if safety was a concern they would be more concerned with recalls of the car manufactures they represent.
6) That they should be held liable for intentional miss information and slander.
I will call back again in the next few days. If you have 3 minutes please take the time. A person picks up the phone making this a rewarding call.
Please put me down for a bumper sticker. Cash in hand
Re: CADA Seeking federal ban on RHD imports in Canada!
Great report. I can't tell you the number of times I should have used a Cochran-Mantel-Haenszel test instead of a Chi-squared test.elbosque wrote:IVOAC has been waiting for this media opportunity to release the study. http://forum.ivoac.ca/showthread.php?t=3689 Thank you CADA for facilitating the media blitz. We knew it would happen.
What we need now is for people to use the study to hit back with articles and letters to your media and to your elected reps: MLAs and MPs.
Richard Dagenais
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Great link with lots of thoughtful comments!
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Re: CADA Seeking federal ban on RHD imports in Canada!
Hi Guys,
I managed to speak with Hatch on the phone today.
He can be reached at 1-800-465-3054
He is the CADA mouthpiece for this, but seemed to be a pretty useless toolbox of a guy. Eventually he hung up.
I would encourage everybody interested to contact him!
Also, I think it might be wise to try and get CBC to publish our side of the story in the exact same format with quotes like
"I got hit with a piece of rusty chrapnal flying off a lifted F150 today, and couldn't even see the numbers on his rusty plate" etc etc.
Does anybody know an approachable person at CBC??
I managed to speak with Hatch on the phone today.
He can be reached at 1-800-465-3054
He is the CADA mouthpiece for this, but seemed to be a pretty useless toolbox of a guy. Eventually he hung up.
I would encourage everybody interested to contact him!
Also, I think it might be wise to try and get CBC to publish our side of the story in the exact same format with quotes like
"I got hit with a piece of rusty chrapnal flying off a lifted F150 today, and couldn't even see the numbers on his rusty plate" etc etc.
Does anybody know an approachable person at CBC??
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Are you an professional in this field? If so, IVOAC can use someone who speaks this language and can translate it into everyday language. I had to reread it a couple times. Journalist won't do this. They will want it translated for them in plain language. If you can help out, please let me know. ThxRichD wrote:Great report. I can't tell you the number of times I should have used a Cochran-Mantel-Haenszel test instead of a Chi-squared test.elbosque wrote:IVOAC has been waiting for this media opportunity to release the study. http://forum.ivoac.ca/showthread.php?t=3689 Thank you CADA for facilitating the media blitz. We knew it would happen.
What we need now is for people to use the study to hit back with articles and letters to your media and to your elected reps: MLAs and MPs.
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We need to step up the campaign to educate people about RHD. These statements that driving position contributes to risk are deliberate misinformation, capitalizing on fear of the unknown. Fear is a proven motivator of public opinion.
What RHD needs is celebrity endorsement. I'm quite serious. We need our own publicity.
What RHD needs is celebrity endorsement. I'm quite serious. We need our own publicity.
Richard Dagenais
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Yes I am a professional in the field of sarcasm. lolelbosque wrote:Are you an professional in this field? If so, IVOAC can use someone who speaks this language and can translate it into everyday language. I had to reread it a couple times. Journalist won't do this. They will want it translated for them in plain language. If you can help out, please let me know. ThxRichD wrote:Great report. I can't tell you the number of times I should have used a Cochran-Mantel-Haenszel test instead of a Chi-squared test.elbosque wrote:IVOAC has been waiting for this media opportunity to release the study. http://forum.ivoac.ca/showthread.php?t=3689 Thank you CADA for facilitating the media blitz. We knew it would happen.
What we need now is for people to use the study to hit back with articles and letters to your media and to your elected reps: MLAs and MPs.
Richard Dagenais
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The CBC or any other news media outlet should be chomping at the bit to get our side of the story as it will provide conflict and conflicting views gather interest, which sells media. But we must be organised if we want to succeed, we can't just go shooting off at the mouth.
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We are all volunteers at IVOAC with limited resources. I don't have much time for sarcastic critiques on this topic. If you or anyone else knows someone with the expertise to help out, send me a pm.RichD wrote:Yes I am a professional in the field of sarcasm. lol