greetings from NC - with a new to us '89 Vanwagon!

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greetings from NC - with a new to us '89 Vanwagon!

Postby riveraXVX » Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:13 pm

howdy everyone! unless I'm missing it on the internet this was the only exclusively Vanwagon forum(sub) that I could find and though quite a ways from Canada - figured I'd sneak my way in here :)

wife and I just purchased a new to us '89 Mitsubishi Wagon.. LHD, 2WD, with the 4G64 2.4L petrol engine. a little over 220k on the body and around 5k on a new to it motor from japan around a decade ago (it sat on and off for a number of years from the PO) - it has some issues which I hope to work through (mostly low power, OD currently not working, and a bit of a rough idle) if you frequent other Delica forums you might have seen the van for sale in Richmond. hoping we didn't impulsively get in over our head, but the silver lining to our daily car getting totaled by idiots in a stolen SUV running a redlight and t-boning our wife is we ended up getting a 2nd vehicle along with what we replaced our previous SUV with (R.I.P. CRV).

the previous owner had put a lot of cash into getting the an running properly but with limited mechanical abilities himself - I'm a bit of a novice myself but good with my hands and a quick learner - been doing all of our other cars work myself for the past couple of years now as a "challenge" to myself (timing belt, alternators, AC fans, brakes/rotors, oil changes etc) - slowly buying tools now that we have a home we own and a secure place to keep them etc. I sent a couple private messages to members here hoping to extract and take on some more information and to maybe help with a few questions!

hopefully this week (if the biting cold wind and rain would let up! although if some of you knew the temp's I'm complaining about you'd shake your head at me) I can get out there and start on my list of things I want to update, change and replace as most of the repairs even though not driven much were done near a decade ago at this point and it did sit periodically longer than it should.

anyway hope to pick up some more info here and as we go along with repairs on ours can hopefully document and provide a bit of info that might help others like me who are ...learning as we go hah!

haven't got to take new pictures yet but here is one from the original seller:
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Re: greetings from NC - with a new to us '89 Vanwagon!

Postby FalcoColumbarius » Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:45 pm

Welcome to Delica Canada :M

Incidentally, we've opened a new sub forum for van meets in the USA. Kind of general, I know ~ not even sure if it's going to take off but if it grows we'll start getting more specific. In the meantime ~ please make yourself at home.

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Re: greetings from NC - with a new to us '89 Vanwagon!

Postby riveraXVX » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:48 pm

anyone have any sort of "for dummies" advice for changing out both timing belts and alternator/water pulley belt on the 4G64 motor? have access to everything - and am not exactly confident after reading through the instructions in the mitsubishi manual

the 3 belts looks old and worn and are quite loose (10 year old belts..go figure!)

I've only worked on a few cars over the past few years as I've been learning - for some reason the placement and being where it is has me nervous to tear into it. if you have any sort of quick removal order or what you'd recommend - all ears here! also will be replacing the distributor cap/rotor and a few other things (oil filter/change, air filter) and later transmission filter/gasket

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Re: greetings from NC - with a new to us '89 Vanwagon!

Postby Mazdax605 » Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:50 am

Congrats on your new addition. I loved my 89 LS when I had it, but due to poor owners before me it became a money pit. I sold it on, and then set my sights on getting a real Deli a few years later which I did in 2014.

The Vanwagons are actually quite easy to repair. They seem daunting due to the layout of the engine bay, but they are well laid out in my opinion. I had to replace the cylinder head on mine shortly after buying it. I was really worried about this repair, but it was pretty simple. I would recommend removal of the radiator when doing the belts, but it may not be necessary. It will make your life a lot easier, and keeps the fragile rad out of the way when doing the repair. Remember the engine in those vans are non-interference engines, so no worries about messing up the timing to the point of ruining the engine. When I did my belts during the head replacement I never put the balance shaft belt back on. My Mitsubishi guru said that it really didn't do all that much, and when the small balance belt fails it will ball up and wreck the main timing belt. I didn't notice any bad vibrations from not having the balance belt on for what it's worth.

As far as the OD not working there is a temp switch on the thermostat housing(actually may be 2 or 3) that won't allow OD to work unless the engine is at a set temp. This sensor could be bad, and not allowing the OD to engage. I believe there is one sensor that locks out AC before the engine is at temp as well.
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Re: greetings from NC - with a new to us '89 Vanwagon!

Postby IdahoDoug » Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:26 am

I recommend getting the factory manual. It was reasonably cheap compared to other factory manuals I've purchased over the years and worth the investment. From it will stem your confidence in doing things by reading about them in advance. Heads up the dist cap/plug wire replacement is a pain due to the cap on one side and engine on the other side. So don't try to do it without removing the driver's seat and the steel floor section that unbolts for access. This makes it much simpler. Otherwise you are literally walking around the vehicle back and forth fitting each wire. Long story but I'm a good wrench and that was the wrong way to do it. The wires were poor quality, so a month later I did it all over again but the right way.

Trans is straight forward but be sure you know what bolts to undoo to access the filter. Open the wrong bolts and tiny bits will rain all over the garage floor and you may have to throw away the transmission. Get the factory manual 2-set. Welcome!

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Re: greetings from NC - with a new to us '89 Vanwagon!

Postby riveraXVX » Thu Mar 03, 2016 10:56 am

IdahoDoug wrote:I recommend getting the factory manual. It was reasonably cheap compared to other factory manuals I've purchased over the years and worth the investment. From it will stem your confidence in doing things by reading about them in advance. Heads up the dist cap/plug wire replacement is a pain due to the cap on one side and engine on the other side. So don't try to do it without removing the driver's seat and the steel floor section that unbolts for access. This makes it much simpler. Otherwise you are literally walking around the vehicle back and forth fitting each wire. Long story but I'm a good wrench and that was the wrong way to do it. The wires were poor quality, so a month later I did it all over again but the right way.

Trans is straight forward but be sure you know what bolts to undoo to access the filter. Open the wrong bolts and tiny bits will rain all over the garage floor and you may have to throw away the transmission. Get the factory manual 2-set. Welcome!



just wanted to pop in and say thanks to everyone! the original seller found the 2nd (electrical) manual and shipped it to us a few weeks ago - the van has been up on ramps in the carport for the past month or two now. sadly have not had time (or when we did weather issues) to get in there and start replacing everything. got a laundry list of things we will be changing this spring with the hopes of getting it back into a much more solid running condition for later spring/summer. I will do my best to document what we are doing in hopes maybe if others are debating on doing things they can get a visual idea - or at very least see how we did things wrong :-D

anyways, other than stockpiling the parts - not much going on here this winter! just doing projects to our new house getting it more settled!

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Re: greetings from NC - with a new to us '89 Vanwagon!

Postby IdahoDoug » Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:31 pm

Good luck with the maintenance. Once this is taken care of, it may prove to be a nice sturdy little transporter. Ours never fails to start instantly even in the middle of winter when it sat for a month. I put roof racks on it for kayaks, and just discovered a week ago that against all odds our Costco kayaks will actually fit INSIDE it just barely. A towel in the back window to prevent chafing of the defroster wires and it shuts within a half inch. It also does the best donuts in the snow! And we laid the seats down, put an air mattress atop them all, and made quicky blackout window covers for the windows with the foil insulation from Home Depot and camped in it a few nights. A versatile and fun personality.


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