CQ... is there anybody out there...?

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CQ... is there anybody out there...?

Postby almac » Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:32 pm

i guess i've been away from the Ham game way too long...
i found this on a local kelowna website.
apparently there's a ham radio setup at our museum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9rwV-3E ... r_embedded

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i still need to put on a few finishing touches, like painting the bracket, and replacing the dome light.

my AUX fuse block; Princess Auto special.
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please excuse the black wire running to power...
guess i need to label some wires, before i forget what they are! :?

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Postby FalcoColumbarius » Sun Apr 04, 2010 1:17 pm

Nice set-up, Almac. I am thinking of doing something similar with the faceplate. Where will you hang your mike from?

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Postby almac » Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:26 pm

FalcoColumbarius wrote:Nice set-up, Almac. I am thinking of doing something similar with the faceplate. Where will you hang your mike from?

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my mike cord is kinda short, but i managed to hang it here for now:
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sometimes i think the cord is a pain. i HATE hanging wires. this is why i added the AUX fuse block.
i have an idea for a mike "outlet". still working on where to place it. :?
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Postby Green1 » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:18 pm

I've certainly considered a mounting above the rear view mirror... for now my radios are down low.
VHF and dual band mobiles in the centre console, with CB mounted on the side, APRS hidden behind the dash.


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Postby Ursula » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:31 pm

You know, after years of hitchhiking, i found that truckers just don't use radios anymore... it's all cell phone and satelite...
but i keep seeing cb's in thrift shops, and i'm so tempted. something about using roger charley over, and 10-4 good buddy.
so people still use these things... and is new beter than used?

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Postby Green1 » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:49 pm

Ursula wrote:You know, after years of hitchhiking, i found that truckers just don't use radios anymore... it's all cell phone and satelite...
but i keep seeing cb's in thrift shops, and i'm so tempted. something about using roger charley over, and 10-4 good buddy.
so people still use these things... and is new beter than used?

Truckers use radio all the time... they just don't use CB much anymore. Truckers use VHF commercial, I listen to them on my VHF amateur radio all the time.

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Postby Vicbowling » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:38 pm

Green1 wrote:I've certainly considered a mounting above the rear view mirror... for now my radios are down low.
VHF and dual band mobiles in the centre console, with CB mounted on the side, APRS hidden behind the dash.
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Yeah if you mount above the mirror no prob. I tried mounting to the back of the mirror and found myself adjusting the mirror everytime.. ;P

I like the ceiling mount you did, that's pretty cool and easy to read! My CB is sitting in a box collecting dust. Would be nice to see it useful again but I also wondered who uses them.

We're doing a trip out your way with a package from kelowna vacation rentals next month and if I have the time I'll wire up the CB and see who's chatty? ;)

PS: At least you have a fuse block.. My last truck was wired by a suicidal idiot and everything was running off the cig-lighter in a mess of un-fused wires.. :p

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Postby Artacoma » Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:18 pm

Just wondering how the no handheld devices law deals with cbs and others with mikes
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Postby Green1 » Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:25 pm

In BC 2way radios are still legal.

However right now is the time for any ham in Alberta to write to their MLA! the proposed Bill 16 (Distracted Driving legislation) in Alberta bans 2way radios in vehicles for personal use! (businesses and emergency services are exempt, but not hams!)

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Postby dfnder » Sat Apr 17, 2010 3:08 am

I liked how you mounted your radio. I was thinking of mounting something up there myself. Your power for the radio, was it stolen from the light fixture or did you run a separate wire down one of the front columns?

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Postby almac » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:36 am

dfnder wrote:I liked how you mounted your radio. I was thinking of mounting something up there myself. Your power for the radio, was it stolen from the light fixture or did you run a separate wire down one of the front columns?

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TardisJay helped me out with that one. :-)
We used a 'fish tape' and ran a wire under the headliner and down one of the B pillars straight to the battery through my new switched fused block.
it really wasnt that hard of a job at all. the head unit has a fibre optic connetion cable to the main unit that supplies power and data. Jay had a bit of 'fun' hooking up the fuse block to a switch i had on my dash.
i think the hardest part was removing all the trim around the door, and fabbing the bracket.
the only downside was that i lost the cover for the dome light. :shock: but that is ok. i want to upgrade the dome light to the larger dome light from the rear of a bus anyways. 8-) guess i should get off my arse and source parts for that.
now the only issue i have with my radio is a longer cord for my mike, and a bit of rf noise over my rado when i transmit. :?
guess i should trim down my antenna cable(i have coiled up about an extra meter); hopefully that might get rid of the noise.
do you guys have any thoughts on noise filters/suppressors?
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Postby Green1 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:49 am

almac wrote:a bit of rf noise over my rado when i transmit. :?
guess i should trim down my antenna cable(i have coiled up about an extra meter); hopefully that might get rid of the noise.
do you guys have any thoughts on noise filters/suppressors?

the length of the coax is unlikely to affect much, however it's quality and proximity to other radios/antennas will. kinks in the coax are bad and cause issues like this.
Unfortunately though, when you transmit, your radio is putting out 50w of power within a few feet of your stereo's antenna... it doesn't matter much what you do, keying the mike will likely affect your stereo to some degree. some things that help:
- don't use high power when you don't need to. This is the big one, most of the time you can get by just fine on 5 watts, and it won't be as likely to leek in to your stereo. (Legally you also are supposed to use the lowest required power...)
- keep the antennas as far apart as possible, I have 2 antennas on my roof, and the rear one doesn't affect my stereo as much as the front one.
- make sure it actually is RF noise, frequently it's actually noise through the power side instead, make sure everything is well grounded, and try to isolate the power from the stereo and power to the radio to make sure they aren't interfering. also make sure you used heavy enough wiring for the radio, I wouldn't go any smaller than about 12 gauge wire (I personally use 10), anything less will generate more noise.

You can get filters, but for commercial electronics, they generally don't do all that much because the units themselves aren't well enough shielded (you put the filter on the antenna wire, and then the RF just goes straight through the case anyway...) it's an unfortunate side effect of affordable electronics.

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Postby Erebus » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:27 am

I really like where you mounted the head unit, never thought of putting it there. I plan on a new radio, intended to put the head in front of the altimeter/inclinometer/thermometer pod. It should fit there without blocking the pod. Now I have to think.

As for CB, quite a few off-roaders still use them, generally on channel 4 (surprise!). Mine normally sits at home, but in use hangs off back of passenger seat, plugs in to cig lighter (only 5w, so that's easy), and the antenna pops onto the stud mount and coax that is permanently attached. Same stud and coax also used for ham rig with colinear antenna when I need it.
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Postby almac » Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:24 pm

i have a cb at home.
will be installing it in the lower empty spot in the double din; after i decide which stereo to install. :?
im not looking for anything fancy, just something that plays cds, and has a usb aux input for under $100. :? :-)

i've also been eyeing the headliner space for a gauge installation. not sure how much space is up there in my high roof, but it should be an interesting project. :?
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