Middle Row Backrest Folding Forward Mod?

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Middle Row Backrest Folding Forward Mod?

Postby vandweller6331 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:50 pm

Hey guys,

Recently bought an L400 Spacgear and I'm super excited to get it camperized and out adventuring in the Rockies as I live in Calgary. I Have a 8 seater and I really want to be able to fold the backrest on the middle row bench seats forward (so the backside of the backrest is facing up). I'm wondering if anybody has any ideas on how to modify the mechanism to get past the block. Currently it blocks out at just past 90 degrees.

I know it's possible from a build a guy did online:
http://static1.nagi.ee/i/p/981/69/24542387bb15e7_l.jpg

http://www.delicaclub.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=40998

and have found a mod for the passenger seat of an L300
http://www.mdocuk.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=335849

Can't figure it out myself yet so any ideas would be really appreciated!

Grant.

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Middle Row Backrest Folding Forward Mod?

Postby poochike » Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:08 pm

From the Delicaclub post...

Reason why I'm still here is that some people have been asking how did I manage to fold the middle seat down.
Secret is that from factory this seat does not fold down. But you can have it folded if you do the following:
1. remove the plastic covers from the sides.
2. Locate two hex bolts both sides. These fix the backrest of the seat to the frame. By removing these bolts you can fold the backrest into the seat. 


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Middle Row Backrest Folding Forward Mod?

Postby P.Gaudreault » Tue Sep 26, 2017 11:49 am

Thank you for these infos... I want to get my van camperized for next summer and I'm thinking how to build my bed over this seat.
You answered the question that haunted me for weeks...

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Middle Row Backrest Folding Forward Mod?

Postby P.Gaudreault » Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:34 pm

I removed the rivets(one each side) that they work as stoper. No need to removed the 2 hex bolts attached to the frame.. It is perfect...

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Middle Row Backrest Folding Forward Mod?

Postby poochike » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:18 pm

Did you drill the rivets out? I haven't had a chance to look at mine yet. If you have pics please post.

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Postby P.Gaudreault » Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:13 pm

Yes I did. Very easy, few step drill and it's done.. I don't know how to had picture on this site... :?

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Postby poochike » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:35 am

Great thanks! I know, pics are a bit tricky here. If you don't mind maybe email them to me poochike@gmail.com

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Postby vandweller6331 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:01 pm

Thanks for the help guys. Taking the hex bolts out totally works but is a bit of a pain to do often. I can't find the stopper rivets your talking about in the mechanism. P.Gaudreault if you could send a pic to grantwstewart@gmail.com as well I would really appreciate it. Or even just describe with a little detail where you drilled?

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Postby poochike » Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:04 pm

vandweller6331 wrote:Thanks for the help guys. Taking the hex bolts out totally works but is a bit of a pain to do often. I can't find the stopper rivets your talking about in the mechanism. P.Gaudreault if you could send a pic to grantwstewart@gmail.com as well I would really appreciate it. Or even just describe with a little detail where you drilled?
This is the only stopper rivet i can see that he would have drilled out. The problem is (I think) is if you drill this one out the seat back will not be secure in any position. This rivet looks like it holds the plate that engages with the bottom plate that allows the seat to stop at various angles. I'll keep investigating and hopefully P.Gaudrealt Wil chime back in.[img]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/feb9a8715f7cb1a9630d639782e51f11.jpg[/img]

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Postby poochike » Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:03 pm

vandweller6331 wrote:Thanks for the help guys. Taking the hex bolts out totally works but is a bit of a pain to do often. I can't find the stopper rivets your talking about in the mechanism. P.Gaudreault if you could send a pic to grantwstewart@gmail.com as well I would really appreciate it. Or even just describe with a little detail where you drilled?
On second look this is the one and it looks like it's safe to drill out. [img]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170929/d0ff52aafaca1e6b8c7e08901f6ba020.jpg[/img]

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Postby vandweller6331 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:39 pm

Up at work for the next few days but when I get home I'll take a look at that rivet but I think your right in the picture. Seems to make sense. Nice work on figuring it out. Let me know if you end up drilling it out. I'll do the same but It will be a little bit till I get the time.

Having that seat fold down really opens up a lot more configurations for designing a fold out bed/interior.

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Middle Row Backrest Folding Forward Mod?

Postby poochike » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:43 pm

vandweller6331 wrote:Up at work for the next few days but when I get home I'll take a look at that rivet but I think your right in the picture. Seems to make sense. Nice work on figuring it out. Let me know if you end up drilling it out. I'll do the same but It will be a little bit till I get the time.

Having that seat fold down really opens up a lot more configurations for designing a fold out bed/interior.
Voila! Drill out both rivets at the bottom back of the springs and the seat folds forward. Not as flat as I'd hoped, but good mod none the less.[img]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170930/5fe047cb23f256397e872d6bfb855955.jpg[/img][img]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170930/349c079200616c356accb71ed0f9d3f6.jpg[/img]

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Middle Row Backrest Folding Forward Mod?

Postby vandweller6331 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:20 pm

Nice! Will give it a go once I have a minute. As long as the seat folds down enough to get a bed over it this will be ideal. Thanks for posting the pictures.

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Postby P.Gaudreault » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:23 am

Sorry guys I just read your post. Do you still need my picture by email?

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Middle Row Backrest Folding Forward Mod?

Postby poochike » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:43 pm

P.Gaudreault wrote:Sorry guys I just read your post. Do you still need my picture by email?
No worries. We managed to figure it out.

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